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What we need to know about the Al4 transmission |
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 121 |
 metin |
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[QUOTE = mugur32] If I solved my problem, I took the problem to the authorized service because of the reverse gear knock and knock in 1 to 2 switch, they tied it to the computer. the passes seemed to be good and the engine was more serialized. Now, the gears are not good for me, it is normal for them .. this is not like the gear is increasing from 2 to 1. [/ QUOTE] all of them are normal. If you want, do the application I mentioned earlier. Before stopping the vehicle, take the vitsi N, apply the handbrake and release the brake. the load of the vehicle will be on the brakes. then get to p. If you do this, when the vehicle stops and lowers, the load is on the brakes, not on the transmission. when you put it back, the knocks are lightened. Also, getting it from D to R when inserting it back. Take it from D to N and wait for a while to drain the hydraulic oil, then take it to R so that knock decreases. But as the service says, I searched a lot, it is normal to have a hard time when you plug it back.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 122 |
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[QUOTE = text] [QUOTE = mugur32] If I solved my problem, I took the problem to the authorized service because of the reverse gear knock and knock in 1 to 2 switch, they tied it to the computer. the passes seemed to be good and the engine was more serialized. Now, the gears are not good for me, it is normal for them .. this is not like the gear is increasing from 2 to 1. [/ QUOTE] all of them are normal. If you want, do the application I mentioned earlier. Before stopping the vehicle, take the vitsi N, apply the handbrake and release the brake. the load of the vehicle will be on the brakes. then get to p. If you do this, when the vehicle stops and lowers, the load is on the brakes, not on the transmission. when you put it back, the knocks are lightened. Also, getting it from D to R when inserting it back. Take it from D to N and wait for a while to drain the hydraulic oil, then take it to R so that knock decreases. But as the service says, I searched a lot, it is normal to have a hard time when you plug it back. [/ QUOTE] I agree exactly. On the way back, I hurry and shoot from D to R in the same way. You have to pay attention to these.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 123 |
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I shift into reverse gear in my vehicle, there is not the slightest knock yaw I do not understand what work .. it makes a very slight click. Meanwhile, the gearbox of the vehicle was completely overhauled, the torque convector was running out of the linings worn out, it was like a plane, digging places like crazy :) these gear shift knocks have me in the car when there is no cold, but when the engine warms up, the gear shifts can only be felt when the engine warms up from 3 to 4, but it can be felt from the hydraulic brain but it is not sure that it can be felt from the hydraulic brain but not sure get a problem?
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 124 |
| metin |
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Did you replace the solenoids at the authorized service? Let me explain a little shortly. Gear shifts are performed by pressurized oil and solenoids. this pressure is needed most when passing from 1 to 2. When the solenoid fails or loses its oil feature, the required pressure cannot be produced when it passes from 1 to 2 and knock shift occurs. this malfunction usually occurs when the gearbox gets too hot. |
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 125 |
| naksi |
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The cellonoids changed 3 months ago, but since there was a problem with the converter, the revision was made in the guaranteed service. All the parts were renewed.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 126 |
| metin |
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If I remember correctly, you changed the solenoids in the private service, not the authorized service. If I remember correctly, this is wrong because it is necessary to throw software before the car is started when the solenoid is worth it and it cannot do special services.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 127 |
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If my brother is due to the hydro block, there is nothing they can do to him, they are cleaning and re-installing them, but again the same thing is going to happen, my brother will either get out or get a block.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 128 |
| naksi |
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I think it would be enough to replace the small cellophoids inside the hydraulic brain.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 129 |
| berk2309 |
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Changing them will cost you zero price anyway, I think you have a lot of trouble or don't play
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 130 |
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My 307 sw grandfather has the same issue, knock incident .. It does more when it gets warmed, even if there is no sound in gear changes, it is just a jolt from the car .. only in the vehicle .... I say I will make minor revisions. Oil and solenoids fln in our vehicle there are 4 solenoids in the hydraulic block but we change There are 2 valves that provide room pressure, because the oil is heating up, pumping problem ... Now, some people say that the valves have changed, the sound is coming from the new valves. Now I have to do the oil change first, and I think that the oil in the machine is the same oil in the machine. Text you need to have software, the room is not available in private service. Anyway, if I change the oil and my two solenoid valves first, will this problem disappear (Of course, you are not an astrologist ...) Give a comment now :)
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 131 |
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[QUOTE = oguz6578] My 307 sw grandfather has the same issue, knock incident. He does more when he gets warm. There are 4 solenoids, but there are 2 we need to replace, the valves that provide room pressure are having trouble pumping because the oil gets hot ... Now, some people say that the valves have changed, the sound is coming from the new valves. Now I have to do the oil change first, and I think that the oil in the machine is the same oil in the machine. Text you need to have software, the room is not available in private service. Anyway, if I change the oil and my two solenoid valves first, will this problem disappear (Of course, you are not an astrologist ...) Give a comment now :) [/ QUOTE] The oil change is something you should do at certain intervals anyway. First, you can go for an oil change. If this does not work, you have already written what you will do next. I have never heard of new types of solenoids making sounds. If any, those who use it will write. There are differences between the new type and the old type both in terms of structure and working frequency. The old one runs at a frequency of 50Hz, while the new one runs at 100Hz. also works. This parameter cannot be changed by entering PP2000 and changing an option. It is directly inside the ECU software in a fixed format. So you get 50Hz, 100Hz. To do it, you need to change the ECU software. You must be a licensed PP2000 user to be able to install software on ECU. The license is extremely expensive and not available in every service. Usually Cin financial clone versions including me are used. Although these systems are one-to-one copies, the ECU cannot update, because it is necessary to contact the French server for the update process. This is not possible in the genie version. ECU = Transmission ECU |
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 132 |
| oguz6578 |
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Well, I told my server how do I know if this device is clone or fake? Will we accept and perform the software update? Or are there any friends in the Forum to help?
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 133 |
| koliva |
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[QUOTE = oguz6578] Well, I said to my servant, I know how this device is clone or fake, I know how I need to update your brother after I do this application, we changed it in vain. Is this supposed to happen? Will the service accept this and perform the software update? Or are there any friends in the Forum to help? [/ QUOTE] New types of solenoids work with the old software, but they do not give the exact desired result. If the place is the authorized service, the original pp2000 is available. I think that if this work can be done best, it is to wait at the beginning of the car. If the service is following a new type of solenoid, it should know that it should update its software and perform it. If not, go to another service. |
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 134 |
| oguz6578 |
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Then CeCoLi master call out to you :))) Ibrahim master does this job, do not you change oil oil solenoid or something? ......
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 135 |
| oguz6578 |
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Koliva thanks for your help Let's see, I am very busy nowadays.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 136 |
| metin |
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[QUOTE = oguz6578] Well, I said to my servant, I know how this device is clone or fake, I know how I need to update your brother after I do this application, we changed it in vain. Is this supposed to happen? Will the service accept this and perform the software update? Or are there any friends in the Forum to help? [/ QUOTE] If you do not assign software like in the service when you change solenoids in the private service, the solenoids will work irregularly, you may even malfunction and you may have to change them again. When the solenoid software is changed, it should be discarded without starting the car. The new solenoid should be introduced before the car is started. After you install new ones, the solenoids may need to change again, even if the software goes to the solenoids for a few km.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 137 |
| metin |
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oguz6578 go to the authorized service, you can rest your mind, they had given 550 prices in the private service, I had 491 TL in the authorized service. If you are not in a hurry, you can have it made in the service specialist, and it will not harm the vehicle. I researched this work so much and I was pleased with the peugeot everybody, I suggest you change it there they are bargaining at the price (: When it comes to sound, old-style solenoid valves operate silently, but the new-type solenoid (brogvarner) works loudly. when the car shifts the car into gear while running rolentite, the transmission will say "cizzzzzzzzzzzz" and some may be disturbed but i like it (: old type solenoids are faulty due to the problem arising from production go replace in authorized service oil + solenoid + software + workmanship is ok. Even in winter, I was hitting the traffic, then I said that if it hits in the winter, I went to eat the quince in summer, even though I was in heavy traffic in the heat of summer, Mashallah did not cause any problems. Let me add while I am ready to tell you, if you change the solenoids, if you hit in heavy traffic, it is normal news that it will do about 20 times stop and 1 time.
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 138 |
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yes folks, automatic transmission problem of 307s has been solved with alisuat brain explanations. I did not experience any of the problems I experienced in Bursa last year, even between 7 people in antep and Istanbul, I tried everything when I had a transmission problem, but I did not rely on the problem of random braking. I'm sure they say 3000 * 3500 from the head, I'm sure everyone will be better after this .. good hand by the way. |
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 139 |
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text brother, I was not there for a long time, I came again with a complaint: (( After my vehicle had been traveling for a while or after a short back, it became a habit of stopping when the gear shift changed, and this time the gear passes extended a little over 3000 cycles: (((((
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| 08.05.2020 16:02 | # 140 |
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[QUOTE = GANDALF] yes folks, automatic transmission problem of 307s has been solved with alisuat brain explanations. I did not experience any of the problems I experienced in Bursa last year, even between 7 people in antep and Istanbul, I tried everything when I had a transmission problem, but I did not rely on the problem of random braking. I'm sure they say 3000 * 3500 from the head, I'm sure everyone will be better after this .. good hand by the way. [/ QUOTE] The holiday is over, I think you have not been in the forum for a long time. Welcome. Thanks to gathering the knowledge and experiences of other friends, especially our friends, Alisuat, Metin and our master Koliva (the men are officially writing articles), under a single heading, we have a good knowledge base. Meanwhile, I changed yesterday brake brake with anxiety. There was a topic about the cleaning of the client, which should be in the how-to section in the forum. Respect everyone who contributed to the accumulation of knowledge.
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