The vehicle does not start when the engine is cool (emergency assistance) - 206

Hello friends, I will write a little longer, but there will be even a little bit of what I'm trying to do.

My 2004 model 206 gasoline car runs in the morning or a few hours after parking (when the engine starts to cool), it starts at GAS 5 6 starts and stops immediately .

15 to 20 seconds after operation, the vehicle trembles back and forth uncomfortably and I keep pressing the accelerator pedal while the cycle should go up to 3000 4000 hours and fall to 1000 rpm while it should remain stationary.

In other words, it seems like gas is not coming to the vehicle.

If I try to move the vehicle, it knocks, it seems to stop, if I do not press the clutch, it stops.

But when it goes a little, there is no problem opening up. 1 It resolves in 2 minutes . Everything works as it should.

when the vehicle warms up, GASOLINE runs in a single starter only when it is working, it seems that it does not eat gas again for 5 10 seconds and it gets better.

the vehicle is equipped with an in-line system LPG

When the LPG button is pressed, the vehicle is running in one starter in the morning, and there is no problem such as no shaking and gas eating, everything is perfectly normal in LPG.

If I run it on LPG and wait 5 6 seconds and get it on gasoline, the car does not stop by pressing the button myself, but it does not shake, etc.

transactions I have made to the vehicle;

first 5 6 months ago
I changed the gasoline fuel filter, made a sibob adjustment, cleaned the butterfly throat

The vehicle has improved around 15 to 20 days.

then the problem started again

I showed it to a couple of masters and a master said that the buoy is getting air, there was a crack, I changed it completely, but it didn't fix it (I repainted the buoy, the master said that they had no problems) when I didn't fix it, I went to another master in the same place, the car is getting air.
There is a hose going from the intake manifold to vestenhagen, that hose is perforated, it adhered to the air, it is not getting air.

vehicle 15 20 days improved again the same problem appeared

I took the vehicle to the authorized service that went to this week

service oxygen sensor and catalyst are blocked and asked for 5500 TL

I did not get it too because it was very costly and unreasonable in the service

I took it to the master , he changed the oxygen sensor, but if it was a catalyst, your car wouldn't matter whether it was gas or gasoline.

friends this problem has been tired of me for months please let me know that someone who knows this problem can help.

Hello, welcome to the forum where you need to introduce yourself first.

If there is no problem in LPG, it may be from the gasoline injector.

Hello and welcome to us first. Your problem is probably the problem of lpg that our friend says, like gasoline injectors, but it works without problems, but this is probably the reason for this. Or was it just a float changed or a gas pump? I can recommend a good master who understands these tools.

Thank you, teacher.

There is no problem in LPG

The gas did not eat gas in the gas after the float changed, but I measured the pressure of the gas pump in two places, both said normal.

I don't know how I can go because the injectors are not a cheap part.

[QUOTE = sonerkyl] Hello and welcome to us first. Your problem is probably the problem of lpg that our friend says, like gasoline injectors, but it works without problems, but this is probably the reason for this. Or was it just a float changed or a gas pump? I can recommend a good master who understands these tools. [/ QUOTE]

When the float was in the complete gasoline pump, I was next to the master, while there was no change, he removed the piece and attached it directly to the vehicle.

If the injector is in the injector, if it is hot, I don't know if it is going to be a problem.

If there is a good master, I can consult a mind, of course.

Arslan1903 2018-09-20 09:06:30

then bro you will have the injectors repaired. In fact, it is not very expensive, you will still get the repair price. but it is still necessary to show a good master.

https://www.peugeotmarket.com/peugeot-206-14-benzınlı-enjektor-orjınal,pr-1892.html

The injector is not an expensive part, at least it is cheaper than the pump and float set. Since it is sold separately, you only replace the damaged one. Even when dismantled, they are all connected to the machine and cleaned.

The malfunction came to me like injector malfunction. You have already eliminated the gas pump event.

What price did the service make? So how did the service that says catalyst explain how it works properly in LPG.

They don't even take LPG vehicles into service. How would you get to the service. I had a pretty bad service.

[QUOTE = talip206] The injector is not an expensive item, at least it is cheaper than the pump and float set. Since it is sold separately, you only replace the damaged one. Even when dismantled, they are all connected to the machine and cleaned.

The malfunction came to me like injector malfunction. You have already eliminated the gas pump event.

What price did the service make? So how did the service that says catalyst explain how it works properly in LPG.

They don't even take LPG vehicles into service. How would you get to the service. I had a pretty bad service.

[/ QUOTE]

I had the tube completely canceled or they did not look. So they didn't even consider the possibilities about the tube, as they didn't say anything about the tube in the catalyst. He said that we could not take care of the injectors, he said, it would change directly.

[QUOTE = Arslan1903]

There is no problem in LPG

The vehicle did not eat gas in gasoline after the float changed

[/ QUOTE]

First of all, if there is injector failure, The problem does not disappear for 15-20 days, injector malfunctions persist. (When dealing with the right and the left of the vehicle, exceptions such as unconscious correction of a socket, wiring, etc.)

2. The fact that there is no problem in LPG, including excessive fuel consumption, indicates that there is no suction, exhaust and ignition problems.

For your vehicle; all that remains is a problem in the fuel supply line.

You actually explained the source of the problem above, but sometimes it is different to look and see!

Hasgör 2018-09-21 08:05:03

[QUOTE = is Hasgör] [QUOTE = Arslan1903]

There is no problem in LPG

The vehicle did not eat gas in gasoline after the float changed

[/ QUOTE]

2. The fact that there is no problem in LPG, including excessive fuel consumption, indicates that there is no suction, exhaust and ignition problems.

For your vehicle; all that remains is a problem in the fuel supply line.

You actually explained the source of the problem above, but sometimes it is different to look and see!

[/ QUOTE]

We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably

The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured

This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter

If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room

What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind,

I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency

I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday.

[QUOTE = Arslan1903]

We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably

The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured

This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter

If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room

What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind,

I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency

I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday.

[/ QUOTE]

3 bars is a normal value, but did you leave the vehicle to service to cool down too much? Or did they open a contact and test after waiting for a while? In other words, did your vehicle not work even after 5-6 starter again after the test? Normally, when the engine is turned by the starter, it should be tested while the vehicle is not running.

Turn the ignition on, when it starts at 5-6 cranks, let the petrol pump run but do not start the ignition when the ECU disconnects the power of the pump (wait 10 seconds if the pump is not audible). it is problematic. (because you state that there are no problems in other elements that may cause problems, namely in the new filter, supply / return lines, etc. and the problem starts with the pump replacement)

[QUOTE = is Hasgör] [QUOTE = Arslan1903]

We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably

The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured

This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter

If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room

What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind,

I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency

I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday.

[/ QUOTE]

There was a problem 5 6 starting problem but it did not improve when the pump was changed.

They measured the gas bar only when there was a problem when it was cold.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 2
M.Ahmet059
Hello, welcome to the forum where you need to introduce yourself first. If there is no problem in LPG, it may be from the gasoline injector.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 9
HasGur
[QUOTE = Arslan1903] There is no problem in LPG The vehicle did not eat gas in gasoline after the float changed [/ QUOTE] First of all, if there is injector failure, The problem does not disappear for 15-20 days, injector malfunctions persist. (When dealing with the right and the left of the vehicle, exceptions such as unconscious correction of a socket, wiring, etc.) 2. The fact that there is no problem in LPG, including excessive fuel consumption, indicates that there is no suction, exhaust and ignition problems. For your vehicle; all that remains is a problem in the fuel supply line. You actually explained the source of the problem above, but sometimes it is different to look and see! Hasgör 2018-09-21 08:05:03

08.05.2020 21:01	# 10
Arslan1903
[QUOTE = is Hasgör] [QUOTE = Arslan1903] There is no problem in LPG The vehicle did not eat gas in gasoline after the float changed [/ QUOTE] First of all, if there is injector failure, The problem does not disappear for 15-20 days, injector malfunctions persist. (When dealing with the right and the left of the vehicle, exceptions such as unconscious correction of a socket, wiring, etc.) 2. The fact that there is no problem in LPG, including excessive fuel consumption, indicates that there is no suction, exhaust and ignition problems. For your vehicle; all that remains is a problem in the fuel supply line. You actually explained the source of the problem above, but sometimes it is different to look and see! [/ QUOTE] We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind, I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 11
HasGur
[QUOTE = Arslan1903] We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind, I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday. [/ QUOTE] 3 bars is a normal value, but did you leave the vehicle to service to cool down too much? Or did they open a contact and test after waiting for a while? In other words, did your vehicle not work even after 5-6 starter again after the test? Normally, when the engine is turned by the starter, it should be tested while the vehicle is not running. Turn the ignition on, when it starts at 5-6 cranks, let the petrol pump run but do not start the ignition when the ECU disconnects the power of the pump (wait 10 seconds if the pump is not audible). it is problematic. (because you state that there are no problems in other elements that may cause problems, namely in the new filter, supply / return lines, etc. and the problem starts with the pump replacement)

08.05.2020 21:01	# 12
Arslan1903
[QUOTE = is Hasgör] [QUOTE = Arslan1903] We can't fix it because we can't see it, then probably The vehicle's petrol bar was at normal level when the ignition was on when it was 3.5, so the service measured This means that there is no problem with the pump and fuel filter If the hoses are also a problem, the smell of gasoline will be dripping etc. there is no room What is the situation we cannot see here if the injector is left behind, I had a full tank of petrol in the vehicle, yesterday the problems are repeating yesterday, there was a quarter tank deficiency I am using the vehicle in gasoline right now. I did not get the tube connected. I noticed something in the vehicle yesterday. [/ QUOTE] 3 bars is a normal value, but did you leave the vehicle to service to cool down too much? Or did they open a contact and test after waiting for a while? In other words, did your vehicle not work even after 5-6 starter again after the test? Normally, when the engine is turned by the starter, it should be tested while the vehicle is not running. Turn the ignition on, when it starts at 5-6 cranks, let the petrol pump run but do not start the ignition when the ECU disconnects the power of the pump (wait 10 seconds if the pump is not audible). it is problematic. (because you state that there are no problems in other elements that may cause problems, namely in the new filter, supply / return lines, etc. and the problem starts with the pump replacement) [/ QUOTE] There was a problem 5 6 starting problem but it did not improve when the pump was changed. They measured the gas bar only when there was a problem when it was cold.

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08.05.2020 21:01	# 3
sonerkyl
Hello and welcome to us first. Your problem is probably the problem of lpg that our friend says, like gasoline injectors, but it works without problems, but this is probably the reason for this. Or was it just a float changed or a gas pump? I can recommend a good master who understands these tools.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 4
Arslan1903
Thank you, teacher. There is no problem in LPG The gas did not eat gas in the gas after the float changed, but I measured the pressure of the gas pump in two places, both said normal. I don't know how I can go because the injectors are not a cheap part.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 7
talip206
The injector is not an expensive part, at least it is cheaper than the pump and float set. Since it is sold separately, you only replace the damaged one. Even when dismantled, they are all connected to the machine and cleaned. The malfunction came to me like injector malfunction. You have already eliminated the gas pump event. What price did the service make? So how did the service that says catalyst explain how it works properly in LPG. They don't even take LPG vehicles into service. How would you get to the service. I had a pretty bad service.