Peugeot 407 electric leakage - 407

Hello everyone

2004 peugeot 407 2.0 HDI I have a flat gear, I bought the car a month ago.

my car is running out of battery all the time.

The vehicle was not found in the peugeot service. No problem was found. I made trials by putting a lamp between my own methods, the battery minus header and the minus cable.

Finally, I looked through the fuses one by one and when I pulled the F4 from the under-the-wheel fuse, the lamp turned off.

By the way

F4 20 A Steering wheel control, auto radio, alarm, cruise-telematics, multi-function display, automatic gearbox, passes as memory box of electric seats.

I tried the radio, the information screen and tried a few days and the battery is running out again.

In your opinion, the problem may come from where the electric seats, alarm and under steering control remain.

Finally, the wipers sometimes work according to their heads, sometimes they do not work. I bring the arm down to all the levels and still does not work.

let someone with a knowledge help me Dead

First of all, welcome to us. Teacher priority places to look at the electric chassis of the vehicle. did something add to the vehicle's electrical system afterwards? sound system xenon bulb etc. In addition, if the engine of the vehicle has been washed before, it is necessary to look at the engine fuse box and bsi (vehicle brain), and the dismantling should be cleaned well. As I said, such problems cause problems such as oxidation and disconnection in cables. But I would say the motor fuse box of my guess. As far as I understand, this kind of work is at your disposal. If you can disassemble it, it will be like a toothbrush or a paint brush after removing the electrical chassis connections and fuse box. I hope there is nothing wrong with the headlight wiper arm. Another reason is that the part of the vehicle (brain) fuses in the vehicle may have taken water.

[QUOTE = lyon69] Hello everyone, friends

2004 peugeot 407 2.0 HDI I have a flat gear, I bought the car a month ago.

my car is running out of battery all the time.

The vehicle was not found in the peugeot service. No problem was found. I made trials by putting a lamp between my own methods, the battery minus header and the minus cable.

Finally, I looked through the fuses one by one and when I pulled the F4 from the under-the-wheel fuse, the lamp turned off.

By the way

F4 20 A Steering wheel control, auto radio, alarm, cruise-telematics, multi-function display, automatic gearbox, passes as memory box of electric seats.

I tried the radio, the information screen and tried a few days and the battery is running out again.

In your opinion, the problem may come from where the electric seats, alarm and under steering control remain.

Finally, the wipers sometimes work according to their heads, sometimes they do not work. I bring the arm down to all the levels and still does not work.

let someone with a knowledge help me Dead

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I think that the authorized service could easily detect this if there was a leak in the vehicle. After locking the lamp means that you put between the terminals of the battery cable off the supply of unnecessary that hardware into a period of further combustion continuation of normal after BSI park and from the battery current draw is extremely reduced to just the necessary hardware flow parked as alarm pulls this case, the filament is much less angry .

A current of 30 amps is sufficient for starting the starter. Since the vehicle is a low model, if the worn starter dynamo draws more, for example, 40 amps, it is an abnormal situation that a 60 amp healthy battery will decline below that level within 8 hours, requiring a leak of 2.5 amps per hour. This value is even greater than the total current of all parking lamps and interior lighting.

In the past, if there is a sulfation in the battery plates due to insufficient charge due to reasons such as not using the vehicle continuously, traveling very short distances, if there is a short circuit in a cell due to spillage in the plates, such a rapid discharge is possible.

As for the wiper; no matter where the malfunction is, it resolves itself once in a while and if it starts again, the source of the problem is most likely electrical. Installation, socket, fuse bearing, wiper motor, if there is no problem, there may be contactless in the contacts inside the wiper arm.

I just changed the battery and got it tested. They said that the battery charger and the battery are OK. The service said on the motor side and the rear trunk side there is no lever. I tried the radio air conditioning buttons on the ten consoles by inserting the screen. my head goes.

I wonder if there is a malfunction in the wiper arm and there is a possibility of electric shock.

the bidet was signaling a permanent malfunction in the rear stop lamps. Even after replacing all of the lamps, it deactivated. I also found a method from the internet and tried it.

[QUOTE = lyon69] I just changed the battery and got it tested. They said there is no problem in the charging dynamo and the battery. The service on the engine side and the rear trunk side said there is no problem. I'm going to find out how I can find what I can't find.

I wonder if there is a malfunction in the wiper arm and there is a possibility of electric shock.

the bidet was signaling a permanent malfunction in the rear stop lamps. Even after replacing all of the lamps, it deactivated. I also found a method from the internet and tried it.

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First of all, the fact that the battery is newly installed is not an indication that it is healthy. Sulfation also occurs on the plates of batteries that have waited for a long time in stock. First of all, make sure that the battery is fully functioning, because the battery will not start after 8 hours, as I wrote above, requires a high amount of leakage. The current passing through the wiper arm monitored by BSI is limited to a few milliamps, and high leaks in its installation can cause BSI failure, cable burns, or even a flame.

The process done at the rear stops is called chassis. In cases where the circuit is not fully completed due to corrosion over time, it can be done if the contact points are too bad to be corrected by cleaning. This process does not cause battery discharge.

If you go to an auto electrician who knows the job, he can find the source of the problem in a short time.

Let me love the eyes of our country in this matter. I am in France and it is really hard to find a qualified person.

Thanks for your help anyway. I will try to find it by trial and error.

If the problem is bsi, can I change it?

[QUOTE = lyon69] Let me love the eyes of our country on this subject. I am in France and it is really hard to find a qualified man.

Thanks for your help anyway. I will try to find it by trial and error.

If the problem is bsi, can I change it?

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If you can't find it in the homeland of the piano, wow. Cry

Since I do not know you about BSI replacement, it is impossible to say anything, but if BSI has not been exposed to moisture, it is not an easily malfunctioning part.

Instead of trial and error, you can perform the test on the battery individually for each fuse line using an ammeter (which can measure current at least as much as the fuse value). There are test probes similar to the fuse feet, or if you can, you can make a simple probe by breaking a fuse and soldering the cable to the feet.

You will remove the fuse, replace the probes and connect them to the ammeter (do not expose the joints to cause a short circuit). If the BSI disconnects unnecessary equipment 30 seconds after the vehicle is locked, you can see the current drawn in the ammeter if there is a leak. (insurance instead ammeter connected contacts I advise you not to open because the instant it is possible to pass currents above the fuse when the power is first given to the circuit. Fuses b u is designed to be instantaneous time in open circuit but a few milliseconds can or even damaged ammeter makes measurements in a shorter period of time)

1.5 years ago, I was supposed to be in the victory because the battery was new, but the problem was on the battery. Good luck with

Hello everyone, thank you very much, my problem seems to be resolved. I have been riding smoothly for about a month. The only thing I did was to replace the battery of the key.

[QUOTE = lyon69] hello everyone, my friends, my problem seems to be resolved. I've been riding smoothly for about a month. The only thing I did was to change the battery of the key. thank you so much.

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I'm glad your problem is solved by understanding our lions teacher. Greetings to our expats. Clap

08.05.2020 21:01	# 2
sonerkyl
First of all, welcome to us. Teacher priority places to look at the electric chassis of the vehicle. did something add to the vehicle's electrical system afterwards? sound system xenon bulb etc. In addition, if the engine of the vehicle has been washed before, it is necessary to look at the engine fuse box and bsi (vehicle brain), and the dismantling should be cleaned well. As I said, such problems cause problems such as oxidation and disconnection in cables. But I would say the motor fuse box of my guess. As far as I understand, this kind of work is at your disposal. If you can disassemble it, it will be like a toothbrush or a paint brush after removing the electrical chassis connections and fuse box. I hope there is nothing wrong with the headlight wiper arm. Another reason is that the part of the vehicle (brain) fuses in the vehicle may have taken water.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 3
HasGur
[QUOTE = lyon69] Hello everyone, friends 2004 peugeot 407 2.0 HDI I have a flat gear, I bought the car a month ago. my car is running out of battery all the time. The vehicle was not found in the peugeot service. No problem was found. I made trials by putting a lamp between my own methods, the battery minus header and the minus cable. Finally, I looked through the fuses one by one and when I pulled the F4 from the under-the-wheel fuse, the lamp turned off. By the way F4 20 A Steering wheel control, auto radio, alarm, cruise-telematics, multi-function display, automatic gearbox, passes as memory box of electric seats. I tried the radio, the information screen and tried a few days and the battery is running out again. In your opinion, the problem may come from where the electric seats, alarm and under steering control remain. Finally, the wipers sometimes work according to their heads, sometimes they do not work. I bring the arm down to all the levels and still does not work. let someone with a knowledge help me [/ QUOTE] I think that the authorized service could easily detect this if there was a leak in the vehicle. After locking the lamp means that you put between the terminals of the battery cable off the supply of unnecessary that hardware into a period of further combustion continuation of normal after BSI park and from the battery current draw is extremely reduced to just the necessary hardware flow parked as alarm pulls this case, the filament is much less angry . A current of 30 amps is sufficient for starting the starter. Since the vehicle is a low model, if the worn starter dynamo draws more, for example, 40 amps, it is an abnormal situation that a 60 amp healthy battery will decline below that level within 8 hours, requiring a leak of 2.5 amps per hour. This value is even greater than the total current of all parking lamps and interior lighting. In the past, if there is a sulfation in the battery plates due to insufficient charge due to reasons such as not using the vehicle continuously, traveling very short distances, if there is a short circuit in a cell due to spillage in the plates, such a rapid discharge is possible. As for the wiper; no matter where the malfunction is, it resolves itself once in a while and if it starts again, the source of the problem is most likely electrical. Installation, socket, fuse bearing, wiper motor, if there is no problem, there may be contactless in the contacts inside the wiper arm.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 5
HasGur
[QUOTE = lyon69] I just changed the battery and got it tested. They said there is no problem in the charging dynamo and the battery. The service on the engine side and the rear trunk side said there is no problem. I'm going to find out how I can find what I can't find. I wonder if there is a malfunction in the wiper arm and there is a possibility of electric shock. the bidet was signaling a permanent malfunction in the rear stop lamps. Even after replacing all of the lamps, it deactivated. I also found a method from the internet and tried it. [/ QUOTE] First of all, the fact that the battery is newly installed is not an indication that it is healthy. Sulfation also occurs on the plates of batteries that have waited for a long time in stock. First of all, make sure that the battery is fully functioning, because the battery will not start after 8 hours, as I wrote above, requires a high amount of leakage. The current passing through the wiper arm monitored by BSI is limited to a few milliamps, and high leaks in its installation can cause BSI failure, cable burns, or even a flame. The process done at the rear stops is called chassis. In cases where the circuit is not fully completed due to corrosion over time, it can be done if the contact points are too bad to be corrected by cleaning. This process does not cause battery discharge. If you go to an auto electrician who knows the job, he can find the source of the problem in a short time.

08.05.2020 21:01	# 7
HasGur
[QUOTE = lyon69] Let me love the eyes of our country on this subject. I am in France and it is really hard to find a qualified man. Thanks for your help anyway. I will try to find it by trial and error. If the problem is bsi, can I change it? [/ QUOTE] If you can't find it in the homeland of the piano, wow. Since I do not know you about BSI replacement, it is impossible to say anything, but if BSI has not been exposed to moisture, it is not an easily malfunctioning part. Instead of trial and error, you can perform the test on the battery individually for each fuse line using an ammeter (which can measure current at least as much as the fuse value). There are test probes similar to the fuse feet, or if you can, you can make a simple probe by breaking a fuse and soldering the cable to the feet. You will remove the fuse, replace the probes and connect them to the ammeter (do not expose the joints to cause a short circuit). If the BSI disconnects unnecessary equipment 30 seconds after the vehicle is locked, you can see the current drawn in the ammeter if there is a leak. (insurance instead ammeter connected contacts I advise you not to open because the instant it is possible to pass currents above the fuse when the power is first given to the circuit. Fuses b u is designed to be instantaneous time in open circuit but a few milliseconds can or even damaged ammeter makes measurements in a shorter period of time)

08.05.2020 21:01	# 8
Mustafa-almanya
1.5 years ago, I was supposed to be in the victory because the battery was new, but the problem was on the battery. Good luck with

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08.05.2020 21:01	# 1
lyon69
Hello everyone 2004 peugeot 407 2.0 HDI I have a flat gear, I bought the car a month ago. my car is running out of battery all the time. The vehicle was not found in the peugeot service. No problem was found. I made trials by putting a lamp between my own methods, the battery minus header and the minus cable. Finally, I looked through the fuses one by one and when I pulled the F4 from the under-the-wheel fuse, the lamp turned off. By the way F4 20 A Steering wheel control, auto radio, alarm, cruise-telematics, multi-function display, automatic gearbox, passes as memory box of electric seats. I tried the radio, the information screen and tried a few days and the battery is running out again. In your opinion, the problem may come from where the electric seats, alarm and under steering control remain. Finally, the wipers sometimes work according to their heads, sometimes they do not work. I bring the arm down to all the levels and still does not work. let someone with a knowledge help me

08.05.2020 21:01	# 10
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = lyon69] hello everyone, my friends, my problem seems to be resolved. I've been riding smoothly for about a month. The only thing I did was to change the battery of the key. thank you so much. [/ QUOTE] I'm glad your problem is solved by understanding our lions teacher. Greetings to our expats.