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08.05.2020 17:53 # 1
serhat79
First of all, hello friends my name is serhat 35 years old, i live in Kocaelide, i just joined you 2004 i have 307 xt vehicle and i bought the car. however, I was exposed to certain chronic problems, like the problem of not being able to go over 90 on the long road, which is chronic in the automatic gear vehicles that everyone knows, and finally stopping .. I came across a post in the forum when I researched about it. It's easy. The 1st gear problem is caused by the oil pressure in the gearbox not being adequately maintained. 2.Oil pressure problem is caused by oil seepage in the gearbox (Selonoid valve). 3. Goats cannot do their job because they lose their properties due to the oil overheating. 4.The oil gets hot because the radiator cannot cool enough. To fix this problem, the radiators of the vanity cases were made larger than those of the non-vanity. Changing the oil at the first time is a very short-term solution, that is, not the solution. On this post, I took the path of the peugeot service, the friend said that there is a cost of 2250 TL before he even got into the car and tested. We said that the room has this problem in all cars. S whatever he said, I said to the man, I changed the transmission oil ( mobil atf 71141) 1.5 liters of oil came out, we put 3.5 liters of oil, we took the air by inserting the bolt from the bottom (then it was not logical according to what I researched), we also removed the coolant from the radiator behind the gearbox (I will add it in the pictures) as much as I understand from the above text. I said to buy it and put it bigger, there is no bigger one, they said 600 TL, I gave up and put the same back again .. As I read from our forum, I changed the brake switch (although it sounds interesting) the car has improved. Now it seems like it is going smoothly but I am not comfortable. I have a phobia of staying on the road. I have a few questions that I want to learn from my masters. It is said that these solenoids are defective at the factory and it must be changed. I should change it. we will do it, friends who kissed the ones who caught here, make a connection to the pc and even read the fault code. What is your suggestion of 75 TL? How do I know if there is an old or new type of solenoid? 2. I looked at the make-up cases, which were written in which the radiator was enlarged, even if it is the bigger one, there is no area that can put it bigger. Do you have any suggestions about this? 3. It is envisaged to change the gearbox oil every 3000 km, but some say that 3.5 liters and some say 4 liters. What is the rate that should be real? As far as I know how to remove the air remaining in the gearbox during this change, how should the procedure be a problem in putting too much in the gearbox oil? 4. Finally, can you suggest me a master around the Kocaeli adapazarı, who will not be able to connect this PC and read these values and process them, apart from their own services? Thank you for your comments and answers in advance.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 2
serhat79
[QUOTE = serhat79] First of all hello friends my name is serhat 35 years old I'm living in Kocaelide, I just joined you 2004 I have a 307 xt vehicle and I loved the car. however, I was exposed to certain chronic problems, like the problem of not being able to go over 90 on the long road, which is chronic in the automatic gear vehicles that everyone knows, and finally stopping .. I came across a post in the forum when I researched about it. It's easy. The 1st gear problem is caused by the oil pressure in the gearbox not being adequately maintained. 2.Oil pressure problem is caused by oil seepage in the gearbox (Selonoid valve). 3. Goats cannot do their job because they lose their properties due to the oil overheating. 4.The oil gets hot because the radiator cannot cool enough. To fix this problem, the radiators of the vanity cases were made larger than those of the non-vanity. Changing the oil at the first time is a very short-term solution, that is, not the solution. On this post, I took the path of the peugeot service, the friend said that there is a cost of 2250 TL before he even got into the car and tested. We said that the room has this problem in all cars. S whatever he said, I said to the man, I changed the transmission oil ( mobil atf 71141) 1.5 liters of oil came out, we put 3.5 liters of oil, we took the air by inserting the bolt from the bottom (then it was not logical according to what I researched), we also removed the coolant from the radiator behind the gearbox (I will add it in the pictures) as much as I understand from the above text. I said to buy it and put it bigger, there is no bigger one, they said 600 TL, I gave up and put the same back again .. As I read from our forum, I changed the brake switch (although it sounds interesting) the car has improved. Now it seems like it is going smoothly but I am not comfortable. I have a phobia of staying on the road. I have a few questions that I want to learn from my masters. It is said that these solenoids are defective at the factory and it must be changed. I should change it. we will do it, friends who kissed the ones who caught here, make a connection to the pc and even read the fault code. What is your suggestion of 75 TL? How do I know if there is an old or new type of solenoid? 2. I looked at the make-up cases, which were written in which the radiator was enlarged, even if it is the bigger one, there is no area that can put it bigger. Do you have any suggestions about this? 3. It is envisaged to change the gearbox oil every 3000 km, but some say that 3.5 liters and some say 4 liters. What is the rate that should be real? As far as I know how to remove the air remaining in the gearbox during this change, how should the procedure be a problem in putting too much in the gearbox oil? 4. Finally, can you suggest me a master around the Kocaeli adapazarı, who will not be able to connect this PC and read these values and process them, apart from their own services? Thank you for your comments and answers in advance, thank you in advance .. [/ QUOTE] nobody here here :(
08.05.2020 17:53 # 3
kasirga16
Thank you very much for important information. Automatic gear work is a bit of an enigma, hard to master, costs a lot & nbsp; But with some practical applications, problems can be solved before they grow. kasırga16 2013-08-23 11:39:53
08.05.2020 17:53 # 4
ekinoks44
It may not answer your questions, but I also have 206 automatic gears. Approximately two years ago, the Kar and S lights were flashing and the traction of the vehicle was quite low. I changed the valves to about 450 TL to the authorized service at that time and got a software update. & Nbsp; & nbsp; After doing this, the problems were fixed. However, since my km counter usually does not work, when I take the industrial road again, everyone connected the problem to the gearbox and when we turned on the gearbox, we saw that the part associated with the km counter was broken, and after long efforts, this part changed and this blew me to 1950 TL. I told them for that, now I am afraid to hear the name of the automatic gear of the pug. You will not be surprised by the classic word that is already said in the industry.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 5
mami202
If I understood a little bit, I would remove the AL4 gearbox in my vehicle and put it in front of the peugeot factory. :) If we change the oil or give it a complete overhaul, these AL4 & nbsp; transmissions are not just a gearbox that will go by doing maintenance, just like in other brands, two hundred - three hundred thousand km.
which I don't want so high km.

mami202 2013-08-23 19:34:16
08.05.2020 17:53 # 6
serhat79
finally I had the opportunity to try yesterday & nbsp; the problem is still going on, even after 100 km / h & nbsp; revs after 4000 & nbsp; e & nbsp; Although the car is yelling like crazy, the gear does not pass and I still can't find someone who can do this job. it was good if i could find someone to do
08.05.2020 17:53 # 7
EnSoNiQ
teacher, there is not much else you can do to replace the solenoids with a new type of solenoid and software. No comments can be made without changing the solenoids :) There is no other choice but to find a good master and replace them.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 8
tolga35

friends, oil change is very important.

(in May) whether the vehicle does ten thousand or not (usually does not)

I change engine and transmission oils I had no problems

So far my vehicle is 73 thousand.

I am changing oil as I enter the summer so that it can be used in clean temperatures.

Want a gentle use, AL4 set does not come to take off ...

08.05.2020 17:53 # 9
dream
I shudder as I read these articles. I use the 2006 model 307xt BVA AL4 transmission, but thank God I have not had any problems so far.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 10
tolga35

If you look at the link, if you look at the mountain, the proverb is exactly for these transmissions.

I especially watch out for oil changes ...


[QUOTE = dream] I shudder as I read these articles. I use the 2006 model 307xt BVA AL4 transmission, but thank God I have not had any problems so far. [/ QUOTE]

08.05.2020 17:53 # 11
serhat79
thank you for your answers I will change solenoids and share the result with you
08.05.2020 17:53 # 12
endorphine
[QUOTE = tolga35]

friends, oil change is very important.

(in May) whether the vehicle does ten thousand or not (usually does not)

I change engine and transmission oils I had no problems

So far my vehicle is 73 thousand.

I am changing oil as I enter the summer so that it can be used in clean temperatures.

Want a gentle use, AL4 set does not come to take off ...

[/ QUOTE]

I think it is unnecessary to change the gearbox oil every year, thank you. Still, it's up to you.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 13
ekinoks44
Change the gearbox oil every 40 thousand.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 14
tolga35

I think 40 thousand is too much. There is no filter in these gearboxes,

That's why I change oil in ten thousand.

and lining dust is formed, and if the oil does not change, they clog the solenoids.

I keep the oil change period short, as I said.

ten thousand may be a little short I'm a little bit pimpy but I haven't seen any damage

You can eat 100 TL a year, my head does not hurt ...

08.05.2020 17:53 # 15
endorphine
Who needs to change the gearbox oil? So the authorized service will pass after all. I think it's something that can be taken care of in industry.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 16
tolga35

I change it exactly in the industry. I have a good automatic transmission.

pouring and filling the oil with the vacuum machine, putting the oil from the top plug

There is no need to bother with the last oil I gave 100 TL.

The oil of these transmissions is not special oil.

08.05.2020 17:53 # 17
endorphine
Thank you, teacher.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 18
metin
1 - The difference between the old solenoid and the new one is sound. The old ones do not make a sound when the vehicle is in gear, and the new ones make a "cizzzzzz" when the vehicle is in gear. It would be better for you and your vehicle if you change it. Even if there is nothing, you will get rid of the bigger expenses that will occur in the future.

2- I had heard about the radiator enlargement, but I searched a lot and could not see such a thing. I also had a very high gearbox oil temperature and related hard gear shifts, I dealt with the new type of solenoid. (I think it is hanging on the radiator)

3- Transmission oil should change every 33000 km, not 3000. When you connect the vehicle to the computer and look at the service km counter, you can see the countdown from 32999. The gearbox has 2 oil plugs. One empties the complete structure, the other empties the excess. In other words, oil is put in and the vehicle is started, the gear is placed on the lift and the wheels are rotated, the excess oil is taken with the second plug I mentioned. If there is still too much oil, the oil expands when it gets hot, and the gearbox has a drain hole to prevent it from cracking due to jamming. So there is no such thing as a vent.

4 - There was a master in Izmit, there was a big industrial site on the lake road on the bay, but I couldn't remember his name, but I can find it when I go. He was a good master, competent.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 19
metin
[QUOTE = tolga35]

I change it exactly in the industry. I have a good automatic transmission.

pouring and filling the oil with the vacuum machine, putting the oil from the top plug

There is no need to bother with the last oil I gave 100 TL.

The oil of these transmissions is not special oil.

[/ QUOTE]

Mobil - Never and should never be put other than LT 71141.
08.05.2020 17:53 # 20
serhat79

friends finally came the heat exchanger, which will be mounted behind the gearbox, and we added oil, we added the temperature to 90, we measured it and connected it to the computer, and I saw 2.7 bar, this ratio is the ratio that the solenoids should give and we don't need to change (I think they may have changed the solenoids) He said that he did not accelerate, and he observed that the speed of the transmission pad was finished, he said that we had to change it, he said that we had to change the gear pad, and he left the car. ? I will share the developments again

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