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08.05.2020 16:06 # 1
Gokhan_S
friends 206 km of my group is not moving, there is no problem in the speed indicator or temperature indicator, but km. wiggling the bar broke down today what is the problem do you think what should i do?
08.05.2020 16:06 # 2
ekinoks44
I have this problem since I bought the car. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not work, other indicators are OK. Especially on the long road, it gets stuck at 10. I went to the authorized service, went to the electronics shop, they could not solve the problem. I guess there are a lot of people who have this problem in 206 .. I use the navigation device to see my speed :)
08.05.2020 16:06 # 3
Gokhan_S

Sometimes I don't have to work and not work, I have run the car today, I moved and stopped at the pointer 0.

08.05.2020 16:06 # 4
ekinoks44
The service doesn't actually understand the electronic part. They agreed with the master I connected to the device outside and took it to him again. A master who understands from electronics solves the problem, but I did not find it in Malatya.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 5
voodoo
Some resistance burning in the electronic card inside the display may be caused by circuit elements such as diodes, mine was the same, if you want to remove the card, you get a solid electronic electronics ... I made it now like a clock ...
08.05.2020 16:06 # 6
Gokhan_S
do you say the electrician takes care
08.05.2020 16:06 # 7
ekinoks44
electrician does not understand brother, you have to go to auto electronics.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 8
koliva
This is a malfunction in the 206s. Generally, the stepper motor inside is broken and usually the problem can be solved by repairing the upper part of the stepper motor. The piece you need is probably water:



The whole picture of stepper motor:




Koliva 2011-09-10 09:46:47
08.05.2020 16:06 # 9
voodoo
electrician language buddy ... electronicsman said ... test the circuit elements on the card ...
08.05.2020 16:06 # 10
Gokhan_S
What is the price of this piece? I just went to the industry, the auto electrician opened the hood, looked at the cables and started and km. I moved the bar, I moved, I moved, but the bar stabilized again, I did not work again, the master did the same operation, but it was as if he was hesitating.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 11
koliva
gokhan_s,

After reading my previous article, I wanted to give some more additional information.
Again, I think it is very likely that there is a problem on the screen side, but I still want you to do the following to be sure.
In this test, we will try to determine whether the problem is caused by the display part or the speed sensor or cables.
What you are going to do is very simple. Close the Sofor door, but do not close it completely. In other words, when I do not close it fast, sometimes it is closed or I'm talking about it. Then drive the vehicle a little forward. You have to pass 10 km / h. If the internal illumination starts to flash on its way, then there is a problem in the display section. If it does not flash, then there is a problem with either the speed sensor or its wiring. In this case, BSI means that it cannot read the data from the speed sensor.

However, there are two different indicators for the 206's. The year 2001 is the turning point in 206 indicators and they do not match each other. I wanted to warn you that you have a 2001 model in your vehicle. If you want to get out of the track, keep it in a corner of your mind.
In old variants, there is one reset button on each side. And the dislocation of the metal shaft of the stepper motor in these older models is a well-known problem. For this, you remove the transparent plastic part in the picture above and add a drop of super glue to the appropriate place. Apart from that, you will have to replace the complete screen.
In the new types, there are two buttons on the side. But I think it's your old type.

Another point you should keep in mind is, if the problem above comes out of the speed sensor or the cables in the test above, the new type indicators use the odometer rear ABS sensors while reading the data from the ten speed sensors.
In other words, if your odometer is running, your speedometer is not working, you have a new type of indicator and if the internal lighting does not flash from the above test, the data comes from ten ABS sensors and needs to be checked.

Good luck with.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 12
Gokhan_S
Again, I went to the industry, they will wear a small device called a stepper motor, since there is no part here, the price to be brought from Istanbul is 120 TL. how do you think the price?
08.05.2020 16:06 # 13
Gokhan_S

Friends km above pictured. Does anyone know about the price of the indicator engine?

08.05.2020 16:06 # 14
phaselispa
first I say get com connected to the car.

08.05.2020 16:06 # 15
Gokhan_S
com what do you mean brother? I'm asking because I'm a novice
08.05.2020 16:06 # 16
ekinoks44
[QUOTE = Koliva] gokhan_s,

After reading my previous article, I wanted to give some more additional information.
Again, I think it is very likely that there is a problem on the screen side, but I still want you to do the following to be sure.
In this test, we will try to determine whether the problem is caused by the display part or the speed sensor or cables.
What you are going to do is very simple. Close the Sofor door, but do not close it completely. In other words, when I do not close it fast, sometimes it is closed or I'm talking about it. Then drive the vehicle a little forward. You have to pass 10 km / h. If the internal illumination starts to flash on its way, then there is a problem in the display section. If it does not flash, then there is a problem with either the speed sensor or its wiring. In this case, BSI means that it cannot read the data from the speed sensor.

However, there are two different indicators for the 206's. The year 2001 is the turning point in 206 indicators and they do not match each other. I wanted to warn you that you have a 2001 model in your vehicle. If you want to get out of the track, keep it in a corner of your mind.
In old variants, there is one reset button on each side. And the dislocation of the metal shaft of the stepper motor in these older models is a well-known problem. For this, you remove the transparent plastic part in the picture above and add a drop of super glue to the appropriate place. Apart from that, you will have to replace the complete screen.
In the new types, there are two buttons on the side. But I think it's your old type.

Another point you should keep in mind is, if the problem above comes out of the speed sensor or the cables in the test above, the new type indicators use the odometer rear ABS sensors while reading the data from the ten speed sensors.
In other words, if your odometer is running, your speedometer is not working, you have a new type of indicator and if the internal lighting does not flash from the above test, the data comes from ten ABS sensors and needs to be checked.

Good luck with.
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I did the same problem with what I said, I closed the door halfway, the ceiling lamp flashes when the km counter is running, but when it does not work, the lamp does not light up. Already my km counter is working sometimes and sometimes it doesn't work. For example, even when I go into the pit while going fast or work at the slope descents, 10 falls.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 17
koliva
[QUOTE = ekinoks44] [QUOTE = Koliva] gokhan_s,

After reading my previous article, I wanted to give some more additional information.
Again, I think it is very likely that there is a problem on the screen side, but I still want you to do the following to be sure.
In this test, we will try to determine whether the problem is caused by the display part or the speed sensor or cables.
What you are going to do is very simple. Close the Sofor door, but do not close it completely. In other words, when I do not close it fast, sometimes it is closed or I'm talking about it. Then drive the vehicle a little forward. You have to pass 10 km / h. If the internal illumination starts to flash on its way, then there is a problem in the display section. If it does not flash, then there is a problem with either the speed sensor or its wiring. In this case, BSI means that it cannot read the data from the speed sensor.

However, there are two different indicators for the 206's. The year 2001 is the turning point in 206 indicators and they do not match each other. I wanted to warn you that you have a 2001 model in your vehicle. If you want to get out of the track, keep it in a corner of your mind.
In old variants, there is one reset button on each side. And the dislocation of the metal shaft of the stepper motor in these older models is a well-known problem. For this, you remove the transparent plastic part in the picture above and add a drop of super glue to the appropriate place. Apart from that, you will have to replace the complete screen.
In the new types, there are two buttons on the side. But I think it's your old type.

Another point you should keep in mind is, if the problem above comes out of the speed sensor or the cables in the test above, the new type indicators use the odometer rear ABS sensors while reading the data from the ten speed sensors.
In other words, if your odometer is running, your speedometer is not working, you have a new type of indicator and if the internal lighting does not flash from the above test, the data comes from ten ABS sensors and needs to be checked.

Good luck with.
[/ QUOTE]
I did the same problem with what I said, I closed the door halfway, the ceiling lamp flashes when the km counter is running, but when it does not work, the lamp does not light up. Already my km counter is working sometimes and sometimes it doesn't work. For example, even when I go into the pit while going fast or work at the slope descents, 10 falls.
[/ QUOTE]

So your problem is 99.9% either from the speed sensor or its cables. I have described the location of the speed sensor somewhere, but if you wish I can say where it is again. Of course, if you will try to do it yourself. (DIY = Do It Yourself)
08.05.2020 16:06 # 18
ekinoks44
[QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = ekinoks44] [QUOTE = koliva] Gokhan_S,

After reading my previous article, I wanted to give some more additional information.
Again, I think it is very likely that there is a problem on the screen side, but I still want you to do the following to be sure.
In this test, we will try to determine whether the problem is caused by the display part or the speed sensor or cables.
What you are going to do is very simple. Close the Sofor door, but do not close it completely. In other words, when I do not close it fast, sometimes it is closed or I'm talking about it. Then drive the vehicle a little forward. You have to pass 10 km / h. If the internal illumination starts to flash on its way, then there is a problem in the display section. If it does not flash, then there is a problem with either the speed sensor or its wiring. In this case, BSI means that it cannot read the data from the speed sensor.

However, there are two different indicators for the 206's. The year 2001 is the turning point in 206 indicators and they do not match each other. I wanted to warn you that you have a 2001 model in your vehicle. If you want to get out of the track, keep it in a corner of your mind.
In old variants, there is one reset button on each side. And the dislocation of the metal shaft of the stepper motor in these older models is a well-known problem. For this, you remove the transparent plastic part in the picture above and add a drop of super glue to the appropriate place. Apart from that, you will have to replace the complete screen.
In the new types, there are two buttons on the side. But I think it's your old type.

Another point you should keep in mind is, if the problem above comes out of the speed sensor or the cables in the test above, the new type indicators use the odometer rear ABS sensors while reading the data from the ten speed sensors.
In other words, if your odometer is running, your speedometer is not working, you have a new type of indicator and if the internal lighting does not flash from the above test, the data comes from ten ABS sensors and needs to be checked.

Good luck with.
[/ QUOTE]
I did the same problem with what I said, I closed the door halfway, the ceiling lamp flashes when the km counter is running, but when it does not work, the lamp does not light up. Already my km counter is working sometimes and sometimes it doesn't work. For example, even when I go into the pit while going fast or work at the slope descents, 10 falls.
[/ QUOTE]

So your problem is 99.9% either from the speed sensor or its cables. I have described the location of the speed sensor somewhere, but if you wish I can say where it is again. Of course, if you will try to do it yourself. (DIY = Do It Yourself)
[/ QUOTE]
I am not very skilled in these matters, but if you explain I will try because it is very annoying. I have one more question does this km counter have anything to do with the gearbox? There were some who said it was due to transmission malfunction .. Thanks for the answer ..
08.05.2020 16:06 # 19
koliva
[QUOTE = ekinoks44]
I am not very skilled in these matters, but if you explain I will try because it is very annoying. I have one more question does this km counter have anything to do with the gearbox? There were some who said it was due to transmission malfunction .. Thanks for the answer ..
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The odometer and speedometer receive the information from the speed sensor located on the transmission. There is no speed cable from the speed sensor to the screen in the Peugeot 206 like in the old Peugeot. Everything happens electronically. Data from the speed sensor is converted to speed and mileage information via a jeep located behind the instrument panel. The remaining 00.1% of the remaining 99.9% was already the probability that this jeep would somehow fail. Göz Kırpma

If you are not resourceful, I am sorry that you cannot do this job. Because the easiest way to reach the speed sensor is to lie under the vehicle. It is simple to insert, you just insert the bolt and pull it out slowly. Picture of the speed sensor:


Koliva 2011-09-12 10:21:00
08.05.2020 16:06 # 20
ekinoks44
[QUOTE = Koliva]

The odometer and speedometer receive the information from the speed sensor located on the transmission. There is no speed cable from the speed sensor to the screen in the Peugeot 206 like in the old Peugeot. Everything happens electronically. Data from the speed sensor is converted to speed and mileage information via a jeep located behind the instrument panel. The remaining 00.1% of the remaining 99.9% was already the probability that this jeep would somehow fail. Göz Kırpma

If you are not resourceful, I am sorry that you cannot do this job. Because the easiest way to reach the speed sensor is to lie under the vehicle. Picture of the speed sensor:

[/ QUOTE]
Then let me look at a master over the weekend. I hope there is no need for a lot of expenses :) Thanks for the information .. Koliva 2011-09-12 10:23:40
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