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Is LPG burning more? Gasoline? |
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 1 |
 eneslan |
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Let me say that I can make 370 KM in the city with 43 LT gas (86 TL), which is 11.6 LT in 100 km. It has been a long time in gasoline, but the approach is 100 TL for the round account of 28 liters of fuel. 11.6 - 9.3 = 2.3 (difference) So if the assumption is correct, why does LPG burn more than GASINE ...? ENES TURNA ISTANBUL STUDENT I am a PEUGEOT 307 USER
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 2 |
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whatever you do lpg is more economical ... otherwise unthinkable  You may have done an account in some places I had 307 14.xr, it burned 30 cents with gasoline and after I got lpg, the car started to burn 17 cents and I was living in Istanbul and I was in this traffic ... you better calculate one more |
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 3 |
| eneslan |
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Actually, we earn from the unit price of LPG. When I had LPG, he said he would burn 1-2 lt more than gasoline. I said it is an account that is obviously boredom and I came to this conclusion (right wrong) =) I wanted to share it with you, my friends.
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 4 |
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Compared to lpg gasoline, 10-15% more is consumed, but lpg is cheaper, but it is also saved. For example, the vehicle burning 10 liters of gasoline is 11-11.5 lt lpg on the same road.
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 5 |
| eneslan |
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[QUOTE = cecoli] 10-15% more tukalis is consumed compared to lpg gasoline, but since lpg is cheap, it is saved again. For example, the vehicle burning 10 liters of gasoline is 11-11.5 lt lpg on the same road. [/ QUOTE] So why is this so? The amount of combustion of the substance is not related, otherwise it is octane. If so what is the octane of lpg :) and so on ..?
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 6 |
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[QUOTE = eneslan] [QUOTE = cecoli] 10-15% more touchable than lpg gasoline but it is saved again since it is cheap. For example, the vehicle burning 10 liters of gasoline is 11-11.5 lt lpg on the same road. [/ QUOTE] So why is this so? The amount of combustion of the substance is not related, otherwise it is octane. If so what is the octane of lpg :) and so on ..? [/ QUOTE] The thermal efficiency of benzine is higher than that of LPG. as a result, in order to get the same energy, it is necessary to burn more lpg. there is a volumetric difference from that pain. Another name of this is the difference in volumetric efficiency. only the lpg octane is higher. therefore, it does not knock on the engine. I also read a lot of different values on the internet about the octane of lpg, but I think it is 104 on average ... I want to talk about the stoichiometric value of lpg. Another name for this issue is "heavy fual rate" which we call "afr". In gasoline, this value is our lambda 1 and the ratio is 14.7: 1 when the optimum is achieved. but the optimal value of lpg is 15.5: 1. in some sources I have seen 15.7: 1. these values are the points where the maximum efficiency is taken from the fuels. these numbers are on top of my poor wife, six of them are on my rich wife ... Here is the oxygen sensor, as well as the lambda sensor, which helps us to capture this stoichiometric value. It ensures that the engine runs at 14 degrees: 1 at the optimum speed (14.7: 1) at all times, depending on the value of the exhaust gas. the value from the musur is wet with the ecu and commands the injector with the required fuel of the ecu ... If the LPG is attached to the vehicle and the fuel mixture is not adjusted properly, the fault light is on when this stoichiometric value cannot be captured and the motor cannot be corrected since it is at LPG. Antipollution is compared with the foult script. but when it is gasoline, this error is not seen ... because the event is the lpg system setting error ... |
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 7 |
 ozaannn |
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Of course lpg burns less why would you use so many people?
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 8 |
 Muhammet CAKIR |
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3.5 tl lpg 2 tl of gas is on average, 1.5 tl of snow per liter is revealed.
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 9 |
| eneslan |
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[QUOTE = cecoli] [QUOTE = eneslan] [QUOTE = cecoli] 10-15% more touchable than lpg gasoline, but it is saved as lpg is cheaper. For example, the vehicle burning 10 liters of gasoline is 11-11.5 lt lpg on the same road. [/ QUOTE] So why is this so? The amount of combustion of the substance is not related, otherwise it is octane. If so what is the octane of lpg :) and so on ..? [/ QUOTE] The thermal efficiency of benzine is higher than that of LPG. as a result, in order to get the same energy, it is necessary to burn more lpg. there is a volumetric difference from that pain. Another name of this is the difference in volumetric efficiency. only the lpg octane is higher. therefore, it does not knock on the engine. I also read a lot of different values on the internet about the octane of lpg, but I think it is 104 on average ... I want to talk about the stoichiometric value of lpg. Another name for this issue is "heavy fual rate" which we call "afr". In gasoline, this value is our lambda 1 and the ratio is 14.7: 1 when the optimum is achieved. but the optimal value of lpg is 15.5: 1. in some sources I have seen 15.7: 1. these values are the points where the maximum efficiency is taken from the fuels. these numbers are on top of my poor wife, six of them are on my rich wife ... Here is the oxygen sensor, as well as the lambda sensor, which helps us to capture this stoichiometric value. It ensures that the engine runs at 14 degrees: 1 at the optimum speed (14.7: 1) at all times, depending on the value of the exhaust gas. the value from the musur is wet with the ecu and commands the injector with the required fuel of the ecu ... If the LPG is attached to the vehicle and the fuel mixture is not adjusted properly, the fault light is on when this stoichiometric value cannot be captured and the motor cannot be corrected since it is at LPG. Antipollution is compared with the foult script. but when it is gasoline, this error is not seen ... because the event is the lpg system setting error ... [/ QUOTE] Yes, this depollution faulty error was giving me the first time. But the warning disappeared when a gasoline was used for a while and the gas was warning after a while again. But I am always in the gas for about 2 weeks still without receiving that warning.
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 10 |
| eneslan |
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[QUOTE = ozaannn] of course it burns less than lpg, why not use so many people? [/ QUOTE] On the 100 km road, LPG burns 1.5 - 2 LT more on average (according to gasoline) (I think it may vary depending on the model) However, LPG is preferred because of its cheap price. Gasoline and LPG are the same price, nobody would prefer. In Europe, in order to minimize air pollution (CO2 emission), the state encourages people to LPG by applying a discount to LPG. The second reason is that it's already cheap. In Turkey, the opposite usually =). Still, I don't speak to everyone.
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 11 |
| eneslan |
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[QUOTE = crazycakir_43] the average of gas is 3.5 tl lpg, 2 tl is 1.5 tl in each liter. Tell me, brother, the figures that appear with that eye =) The values I mentioned are other =)
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 12 |
| Muhammet CAKIR |
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sorry then
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 13 |
 BAHTIYAR |
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I have heard that the quality lpgnin octane is 92, since it is the simplest lpg gas, it can be compressed and occupies less volume than petrol, so lpg burns more, I think it is an economical and environmentally friendly system. |
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 14 |
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[QUOTE = 06BAHO] I have heard that the quality lpgnin octane is 92, since it is the simplest lpg gas, it can be compressed and occupies less volume than petrol, so lpg burns more, I think it is an economical and environmentally friendly system. [/ QUOTE] Dear brother, I made the above description of the incident on the above ... If you want, you can search. You can read the publications of the Gazi University on this subject. The incident is not related to the fact that you have been compressed in the warehouse, as you said. If you think about it, we do not send the liquid LPG coming out of the tank directly to the engine. What heat does the part we call regulator? It both reduces the pressure of the LPG and keeps it at a certain pressure and heats the LPG and transforms it into steam ... Let it be crazy as an octane and the wrong thing about the reason why LPG burns more. our goal is to share. respects...
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 15 |
 3rkans |
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I am very pleased with the lion's lvis li elvis ear :))
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 16 |
| BAHTIYAR |
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[QUOTE = cecol a] [QUOTE = 06BAHO] I have heard that the quality lpgnin octane is 92, since it is the simplest lpg gas, it can be compressed and occupies less volume than petrol, so lpg burns more, I think it is an economical and environmentally friendly system. [/ QUOTE] Dear brother, I made the above description of the incident on the above ... If you want, you can search. You can read the publications of the Gazi University on this subject. The incident is not related to the fact that you have been compressed in the warehouse, as you said. If you think about it, we do not send the liquid LPG coming out of the tank directly to the engine. What heat does the part we call regulator? It both reduces the pressure of the LPG and keeps it at a certain pressure and heats the LPG and transforms it into steam ... Let it be crazy as an octane and the wrong thing about the reason why LPG burns more. our goal is to share. respects... [/ QUOTE] okay cecoli teacher i dont know much about lpg i just realized logic 92 octane is http://www.erkayalar.net/index.htm i saw it from this site but i couldn't find it now stay with it
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 17 |
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Combustion occurring in the area where the flame does not reach in the cylinder causes local pressure to rise and the sound of hitting. Not only LPG, but every fuel under the required octane number will cause knocks in the engine. A low level of knock does not damage the engine, but continuous and high level knock can result in power loss, motor overheating and engine damage. The minimum engine octane number (MON) for LPG should be 89, as specified in the European autogas standard EN 589. It is necessary to make sure that the LPG you purchase has at least 89 MON in order to prevent the negative effects on the performance and life of your vehicle. (back to top ) the octane issue is not wrong cecoli teacher writes on the page of aygazin says 89 to 93 octane in the forums
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 18 |
 bestfear |
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Slm .. friends, what is your fuel status after the last hikes and cold weather conditions ... My latest measurement is as follows ... Gas in Aydın with a total of 2.3 tl 150 tl of gas in total 580 km in city-suburban distance .... km My friends who use 0.258 cents of other vehicles find this value high ... how do you think ...
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 19 |
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[QUOTE = 06BAHO] Combustion occurring in the area where the flame does not reach in the cylinder causes local pressure to rise and the sound of hitting. Not only LPG, but every fuel under the required octane number will cause knocks in the engine. A low level of knock does not damage the engine, but continuous and high level knock can result in power loss, motor overheating and engine damage. The minimum engine octane number (MON) for LPG should be 89, as specified in the European autogas standard EN 589. It is necessary to make sure that the LPG you purchase has at least 89 MON in order to prevent the negative effects on the performance and life of your vehicle. (back to top ) the octane issue is not wrong cecoli teacher writes on the page of aygazin says 89 to 93 octane in the forums [/ QUOTE] somehow I missed this article of you then i did not answer. have you missed something I wrote somewhere before but I don't remember where :) RON and MON are different values. Gasoline is sold as RON at the fuel station. Your gas with 95 RON is 88-89 MON. The lpg of 93 MON is 103-104 RON. everyone knows that ... lpg's octane is higher than gasoline. The engine runs even more in lpg. deep under the skin, I am scratching ... :))
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| 08.05.2020 14:56 | # 20 |
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[QUOTE = bestfear] Guys slm .. What is your fuel status after the last hikes and cold weather conditions ... My most recent measurement is as follows ... Total gas in Aydın with a tl of 150 TL and a total of 580 km from the city - out of town. ... my friends who use 0.258 cents per km find this value high ... how do you think ... [/ QUOTE] The values you are saying indicate that you are consuming 11.3 LT lpg per 100 km. On the other hand, keep the one you use in gasoline in LPG alongside. 11.3 lt in general is not very high value. It can be at 10 or 12-13 according to usage. The fact that the vehicle is straight or automatic gearbox, short or long distance use, attack or undue use, the general maintenance status of the vehicle, weather conditions etc. changes the fuel very much.
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