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Flywheel failure-Service was reached, confused! |
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 1 |
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When I stop the car in my 407 1.6HDI car, it sounds like "exit" from the engine; this is a situation that stops every time and when I research about this situation, it came to my mind that there may be a "flywheel failure". But in order to be sure, I wanted to ask here: How exactly is the flywheel failure, what can I do to see if there is a failure? Today, I went to 3 different services, 2 of them special Peugeot service and I showed the vehicle. The diagnosis is the same in 3 places; But the interesting thing is that one of the special services does not cause any problems for now, if the sound increases, come back again, the other special service will make the same sound again after 10,000km even if you change it now, so there will be no problem up to 100.000-110.000km, then we will look again said. He replied "no" to my insistent questions whether it would be problematic to use it as such, even the master took 5-10 minutes to turn the pads in good condition while I was chatting with the owner of the service, he said. Fakaaaaaatttttt; the authorized service was another realm; he said directly volant, he said he needs to change, how long it is going to be like this, I said, we can not guarantee it, it can disintegrate and damage the transmission, etc. said. Now who should I believe, what should I do ????? |
08.05.2020 14:09 | # 2 |
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[QUOTE = is valenciaendo] When I stop the car in my 407 1.6HDI car, it sounds like "exit" from the engine; this is a situation that stops every time and when I research about this situation, it came to my mind that there may be a "flywheel failure". But in order to be sure, I wanted to ask here: How exactly is the flywheel failure, what can I do to see if there is a failure? [/ QUOTE] Coming in me too. so 90,000 km. dir coming :) :) .. comes from the steering pump. Let it come :)
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 3 |
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Do you come only while stopping the engine? My voice comes directly from the engine, I opened the hood and paid particular attention, the sound that I was talking about the engine while stopping.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 4 |
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[QUOTE = valenciaendoor] Do you come only while stopping the engine? my voice comes directly from the engine, I opened the hood and paid particular attention, the sound that I was talking about the engine while stopping. [/ QUOTE] Yes, he stops and squeaks in the engine stop. But the sound comes by the strap. I replaced the complete timing, camshaft belts and tension balls and did not cut. Probably either the steering pump or the air conditioner engine .. There is no problem in normal use but it happens when it stabs .. I have been using it for a long time
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 5 |
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Obviously, there is no problem in normal use in me, but once you think of it, trouble begins. |
08.05.2020 14:09 | # 6 |
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this problem is the sound coming out of the engine of all the diesel, sometimes it comes from the flywheel, sometimes the clutch ball is the bearing, but this sound does not indicate that the flywheel or bearing fails, all those dies make this sound like spring mattress sound tr volant failure generally starter It shifts the pressure as jiiiiit or the car also makes tremors on departures. It plays on these models.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 7 |
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In fact, I was thinking of going to an authorized service over the weekend, at least to understand exactly what happened. I do not say it directly, I will show it to several different places to make sure before I make it. Nevertheless, he is afraid if a person is a harmful thing, will it cause damage? Well guys, let's say the problem is volant; But as I said, right now it only sounds like a creak when stopping the engine, and it sounds like a squeak when lifting the vehicle on a slope; would it be problematic to use it in this way, that is, would it cost more? Do you mind if I use it this way and how much can I use it this way? |
08.05.2020 14:09 | # 8 |
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Brother, your problem is not a volant, I think if it was a volant, vibration will make extreme jolts on departure.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 9 |
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[QUOTE = is valenciaendo] In fact, I was thinking of going to an authorized service over the weekend, at least to understand exactly what happened. I do not say it directly, I will show it to several different places to make sure before I make it. Nevertheless, he is afraid if a person is a harmful thing, will it cause damage? Well guys, let's say the problem is volant; But as I said, right now it only sounds like a creak when stopping the engine, and it sounds like a squeak when lifting the vehicle on a slope; would it be problematic to use it in this way, that is, would it cost more? Do you mind if I use it this way and how much can I use it this way? [/ QUOTE] It is true that if your vehicle is triptronic, it says polate brain. flywheel hub is in 2 parts and starts to balance over time. the price is down as the yukaru friend said .. but the flywheel knock is a bit different, you still make sure the sound comes from the belt or the gearbox.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 10 |
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My vehicle is manual; does not tremble or knock on the first departure; It does not sound like the squeak that I think comes from the clutch while getting up the hill, usually when getting up in a flat place. How do I know if the source of the sound, which is quite ignorant about the engine, comes from the gearbox or the belt? So what side do I need to pay attention to? ![]() |
08.05.2020 14:09 | # 11 |
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[QUOTE = valenciaendoor] My car is manual; does not tremble or knock on the first departure; It does not sound like the squeak that I think comes from the clutch while getting up the hill, usually when getting up in a flat place. How do I know if the source of the sound, which is quite ignorant about the engine, comes from the gearbox or the belt? So what side do I need to pay attention to? ![]() open the hood in front of the engine .. you are standing against the engine right now .. according to your stance, is it coming from the left, is the sound from the right?
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 12 |
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how many km of your vehicle
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 13 |
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Brother Hasim has the same problem with me. After completing complete maintenance, that is, it started to be 1 month ago. He said that the place where I had his maintenance come from the timing and passes over time.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 14 |
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The circulation pump in the timing set makes sound, but the sound is like a different spring bearing, it can make the clutch main bearing very hard. pulley gasoline, you can clutch to 300 tl, you can also clutch 1300 tl. Be careful, the more pimpiculous, the more you fall on the car, the more malfunction
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 15 |
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The [QUOTE = polatkaptan] timing definitely does not make noise, as soon as it goes out, the circulation pump in the timing set makes a sound, but this sound is like a different spring bearing sound. there are fixed flywheel, springless pulley, you can clutch to 300 TL in gasoline, you can do 1300 TL clutch at the same time. be careful not to say how they will say 1500 TL will be very careful, the more pimplicated omam the more you fall on the car, the more it will fail [/ QUOTE] Double flywheel is only for 1.6 and 2.0 diesels. It has a price of 400 - 500 TL in the industry. The 1.4 HDIs have classic fixed flywheels. No need to change if there is no knock problem. It is not a case that the clutch pressure will change as the ax changes, as is the case for both flywheel types.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 16 |
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While stopping, a click came in my 307. They said from the Engine Ear, we changed it. Somewhat reduced, but they said they were coming from Volant broadcast for the main voice. There is a noticeable decrease in the sound when it stops by pressing the clutch.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 17 |
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Thank you very much for your interest. I am at work now and the car is in the parking lot; paying attention to what you say when you stop the vehicle in the evening and write about where the sound comes from. I had read somewhere too; I stopped by pressing the clutch to try; there was no change in sound. Can we reach a result by starting from here?
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 18 |
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The km of the vehicle was asked and I forgot to write. The vehicle is at 77,000.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 19 |
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A friend has the same sound in 308 while stopping. He said that the room was noticed and the service looked no problem. maybe a chronic problem. or it's not a problem, we're asking.
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08.05.2020 14:09 | # 20 |
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[QUOTE = hasimayaz] [QUOTE = polatkaptan] timing absolutely does not make sound goes off as soon as it shows whether the circulation pump in the timing set makes sound, but this sound is like a different spring bearing sound. Reduces this type of diesel, there are fixed flywheels in spring, flat pulley gasoline, you can clutch 300 tl on gasoline, you can clutch 1300 tl at the same time. look at the distance from the distance of the guys, they should not say how they say the flywheel 1500 TL will be very careful. Double flywheel is only for 1.6 and 2.0 diesels. It has a price of 400 - 500 TL in the industry. The 1.4 HDIs have classic fixed flywheels. No need to change if there is no knock problem. It is not a case that the clutch pressure will change as the ax changes, as is the case for both flywheel types. [/ QUOTE] yes bro it is exactly 1.4 hdi and some of the partners play fixed flywheel 550 tl clutch 350 tl 1.6 v 2.0s so the spring-loaded volant is not only good to change the flywheel in these models, the gearbox is already switched, the most logical one is to break the flywheel if the clutch runs out, the flywheel will break the clutch |