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Excessive tremor at idle at 407 |
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 1 |
 AydoganT |
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forum. Hello first, everyone. I want to explain my problem without further ado. In June, I bought a peugeot 407 executive 2.0 gasoline car and it is also available in lpd. I had no trouble until the weather got cold. However, it is very rare that both fuels & nbsp; when my vehicle stops, the engine & nbsp; stopping & nbsp; frankly, I didn't mind much. When the air started to cool, my car started to get bored. I am bored though in cold weather. When I first started the car, the engine was over & nbsp; it starts to shake, and sometimes it seems to stop and & nbsp; sometimes a nasty smell comes from the exhaust, the notor also lights up the backlight & nbsp; but the heat & nbsp; 70 & nbsp; When it comes to around 80 & nbsp; degrees & nbsp; everything comes to normal, the engine works like a clock and I use it without any trouble during the day. So what did I do for this? & nbsp; First I measured the compress & nbsp; It turned out around 120. The engine said good, we connected the sontra computer & nbsp; An error such as ignition problem in the 1st and 3rd coils of ignition interruption in the cylinders. Immediate ignition coil & nbsp; and I replaced the spark plugs with their originals. & nbsp; Unfortunately, it did not pass. Then we took the car to a good master we knew. & Nbsp; My car stopped for about 2 days and after checking it thoroughly (even it was checked, including egr). He even spoke very confidently. Anyway, I had my lpg system removed. But I haven't fully used my vehicle yet & nbsp; because of the snow; but when I run it in the morning & nbsp; Slight flickering continued in my vehicle for the first 2 days. & nbsp; but & nbsp; On the 3rd day, the heat was & nbsp; -5 degrees & nbsp; & nbsp; again, there was a strong jolt and a stench from the exhaust. He asked me to bring it.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 2 |
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I use 407 1.6 HDI, but before that there was a seat toledo 1.6 petrol. I installed the Atiker LPG kit and started to have the problem you mentioned, so I sold the car just for this reason. The person who took it took the car to Kayseri. The lowest rating I saw in Istanbul was 9 degrees, and starting the car was officially agonizing. I was struggling for 2 minutes to start and start the starter. I researched what is this and what is it. First of all, the subject I learned is that the car definitely started to decrease enormous water. The reason is that it decreases while using hot water to evaporate the gas in the LPG regulator. Another case is that the lpgnin brain is disrupting the fuel settings of the vehicle's brain, and while the car is constantly trying to work in the rich mixture, it strangles the car. The reason for the stench you feel is that the car is constantly working in a rich mixture. Now if your lpg system is Atiker, you can get the car to work directly with LPG when you operate it by holding down the hub of the remote control that allows the gas to change the gas so that you can understand what system the tremor or misfire you mentioned is related to. Do not go to the service or LPG in vain, they say they will get your money, but after 10km, the settings will be broken again. You will either sell the solution and buy diesel or you will settle for it or buy a Volvo because this problem does not occur in a single volvo. :) I take refuge in the forgiveness of the managers. I know this situation because it was a lpg turbo engine volvom before & nbsp;
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 3 |
 koramiral |
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My teacher, I advise you to take the vehicle to a master who knows it properly, clean the throat butterfly, do not have it. lining spray works
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 4 |
 mami202 |
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& nbsp; 407 - 2.0 executive & nbsp; my vehicle - & nbsp; roughly the same problems were in my vehicle, & nbsp; bi injector replacement problems were solved. vehicle was used with about 40 thousand km atiker lpg system for 2 years lpg was canceled when I bought it. I showed & nbsp; ignition coil - brain - catalytic converter etc. They said that there might be problems from individual places, & nbsp; all my problem was solved with only 1 injector replacement & nbsp; I did not have to change neither brain nor catalyst to change it. malfunction warning light extinguished traction improved fuel returned to normal level engine & nbsp; working condition, idling etc. all improved, & nbsp; & nbsp; I do not know if it would be better if I change other injectors because it still seems to me that there is still a little bit of tremor and the engine is running a little loudly. & nbsp; I'll be sure if there is tremor or normal.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 5 |
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[QUOTE = Vice Admiral] My coach, I advise you to take the vehicle to a well-known master, clean the throat butterfly, don't insist on it, give it 20-30 give it, go away. lining spray works [/ QUOTE] There is no such thing as chronic. LPG is a system that causes problems in every car. The reason is that Arac is working with a double brain and trying to direct the fuel system from two different brains. When the data collides, it starts kicking or shaking. By the way, he had a piece called idling engine. I think it would be useful to have a look. When buying 407 diesels, too much chronic was mentioned, there is no problem in this car. |
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 6 |
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We are struggling with very similar problems. As the weather got cold in the vehicle, there was an extreme shock in the morning and very slight shaking in the day. If we can find a solution, please let us share ... by the way, my position http: / /forum.peugeotturkey.com/forum_posts.asp?tıd=32470&title=souk-motor-sallant
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 7 |
| AydoganT |
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Jerky operation of the engine continues only until the vehicle warms up, so after 5 minutes, use it as you wish, do not click the car, the traction is excellent. Also, there is no problem in running. Flickering starts 5 seconds after the vehicle starts. I am telling the injector to our friend who has changed how to understand the problem. Also, the malfunction lamp does not light on me, but this problem continues. I wonder what is the probability of being from your brain ... Master comments in this way. Since I disassembled the lpg system, use it for 1, 2 days and the brain says it resets itself .... I don't think it is chronic. I will have the throat butterfly cleaned, but the master does not want to use chemicals ... I don't know how ... If we have a friend who has another idea, let's clarify this issue, otherwise I will sell the car ...
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 8 |
| koramiral |
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you already have the answer in the question, 5 minutes after starting, everything returns to normal after the throat butterfly has a temperature sensor in front of the throat butterfly.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 9 |
| AydoganT |
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[QUOTE = vice admiral] you have already given the answer in the question 5 minutes after starting, everything returns to normal because it has a temperature sensor in front of the throat butterfly. the incident in person) [/ QUOTE] As soon as I will consider this issue ....
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 10 |
| mami202 |
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[QUOTE = AydoğanT] I'm telling the injector to my friend who changed it. How was the problem understood? & Nbsp; I have connected my problem tool to the diagnostic tool & nbsp; an error like injection p202 & nbsp; gave warning. & nbsp; Before installing it on the device, the master ignition coil was defective and after seeing the error, this time the fault could be in the brain. We determined the location of the injector that was defective and we solved the event.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 11 |
| evooz |
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When you start the car for the first time, there is an engine that blows extra air to the car. If you have noticed, if the car is very cold, it will be active for about 45 seconds. I hope we will solve the problem as soon as possible.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 12 |
 korhy |
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I have a peugeot 307, and I live the same problem, even I was a headline act on this site. The last master I got was said to be the injector of the tube first, and he put the car in the machine and the result showed that the injectors were smooth in the machine and then he said that it is the butterfly that he said. I couldn't get it cleaned) but the point opposite to your narration is that in my car this tremor happens after the car warms up. Is it normal to do this after warming? In the meantime, it feels very rare and very little even if the car does not do this problem when it is on gasoline.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 13 |
| mami202 |
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I was expecting :) the engine is shaking even though it is a little and the sound was a bit of a fortune & nbsp; I wrote in my previous message I thought it would be nice to change other injectors. & nbsp; warm up, no problem ... 100 meters & nbsp; I noticed a change in the sound of the engine while I was going calmly & nbsp; what is going to happen? > `` exhaust emission system is defective '' I went back to the correct service & nbsp; connected to master machine no fault code appeared & nbsp; asked to check the injectors again, one of the injectors was renewed all injectors & nbsp; we switched the spark plugs when ready. & nbsp; my current complaint is that the sound and chills have gone to zero & nbsp; I wonder these injectors nooluyo & nbsp; I don't have LPG, I buy petrol from brands from known places. |
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 14 |
| AydoganT |
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[QUOTE = evooz] When you start the car for the first time, there is an engine that blows extra air to the car. I hope we will solve the problem as soon as possible [/ QUOTE] The engine you said is in my car and it is blowing in cold weather, but you didn't know 15, it takes 20 seconds. The tremor begins after it stops ... Does it have a certain duration?
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 15 |
| evooz |
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[QUOTE = AydoğanT] [QUOTE = evooz] When you first start the car, there is an engine that blows extra air to the car. . I hope we will solve the problem as soon as possible [/ QUOTE] The engine you said is in my car and it is blowing in cold weather, but you didn't know 15, it takes 20 seconds. The tremor begins after it stops ... Does it have a certain duration? [/ QUOTE] There is a certain duration, of course, but depending on the weather, it probably doesn't work for me sometimes, sometimes it works for 20 seconds at most and 40-50 seconds. I changed the spark plug coil, throat butterfly, cleaned the egr valve, used to make carbon clean, there was no improvement, I'm still dealing with this tremor in the morning. Interestingly, the vehicle does not fail at all. The masters open the cylinder head and say to the valves, and if there is a soot it should be done. BUT, it does not make any sense for me to have 60 thousand km of vehicle connected to the institution. I was amazed at what to do.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 16 |
| evooz |
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Until this day, my car had not malfunctioned this morning, while the car was shaking, I gave gas for about 15-20 seconds at the time of the car, then the exhaust sign appeared on the screen and an error occurred in order to have the engine repaired. Agzos sign is on the screen right now
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 17 |
| AydoganT |
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[QUOTE = evooz] [QUOTE = AydoğanT] [QUOTE = evooz] When you first start the car, there is an engine that blows extra air to the car, if you have noticed, if the car is very cold, it will be active for about 45 seconds, starting from the first start, my car does not vibrate in this circuit. It starts to tremble after it is interrupted. I hope we will solve the problem as soon as possible [/ QUOTE] The engine you said is in my car and it is blowing in cold weather, but you didn't know 15, it takes 20 seconds. The tremor begins after it stops ... Does it have a certain duration? [/ QUOTE] There is a certain duration, of course, but depending on the weather, it probably doesn't work for me sometimes, sometimes it works for 20 seconds at most and 40-50 seconds. I changed the spark plug coil, throat butterfly, cleaned the egr valve, used to make carbon clean, there was no improvement, I'm still dealing with this tremor in the morning. Interestingly, the vehicle does not fail at all. The masters open the cylinder head and say to the valves, and if there is a soot it should be done. BUT, it does not make any sense for me to have 60 thousand km of vehicle connected to the institution. I was amazed at what to do. [/ QUOTE] The last master I took said to me, this car is running 3.5 cylinders. So there is dirt in one of the injectors. You did not know this car 1, use 2 tanks with petrol, add injector additives, you will have no problem. I have been using the car in petrol for about 2 weeks, but there is no tank, but I feel that the trembling in the morning will be a little later and its duration will be shorter. I'll use it a little more like this. (By the way, the coldness of the outside is 1 week - in the range of 9 - 15). Normally there was a tremendous tremor in these weather. (Also coil, spark plug changed, egr, throat butterfly, heat sensor cleared)
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 18 |
| AydoganT |
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Friends, Yesterday I went to another electrician master. That said, doing it from the heat sensor is probably bad, he said. He said this has not been cleaned anyway. When they looked at it, they found it to be corrupt and replaced it with a new one. He says there is no problem at the moment. I haven't seen it yet. I'll take it in the evening and my first job in the morning will be to test it. I'll let you know the results.
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 19 |
| evooz |
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What happened, I am waiting for your reply
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| 08.05.2020 18:08 | # 20 |
 ismailkaya |
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ALTERNATOR (CHARGER DYNOMO) I would like to look at the electrician master who understands this job
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