braking sound without braking.

Friends, when you press the brake on the straight road from my vehicle, there is a sound similar to the sound caused by the pads being asbestos free, as it rubs the two metals together. The sound starts after using the vehicle for a while, and especially after the speed of 70 km per hour, is cut off to the brake pressure. Sometimes, when there is no sound on the way, it comes when you move the steering wheel to the left, especially to the left. By the way, 207 1.4 70 hp diesel vehicle, which I bought zero km in 2009, is now at 52,000 km, thank goodness. While 45.000 maintenance was done in Ankara Demirbek service at 43.000 km, the front brake pads also changed, and the sound I mentioned was about 50.000 km. I called the service, I explained the voice, it was made of dust accumulated in the pads, but it does not matter, but it seems to me that there may be a problem with the front team. In the meantime, although I have entered the pits that we can call hard at a speed of 70-80 km several times, there is no tremor in the steering wheel, pulling left and right, there is no gap in the bumps and suspensions, there is only the sound I am talking about. I expect an answer from those who have an idea and experience in this regard. Best regards..

Seems to be a problem from pads. let's see, our friends with experience will inform
respects

Wheel bearing.
If you have a chance to jack the car, I can also transfer the chip, which you will find out which side is broken.
Koliva 2011-07-08 17:53:04

[QUOTE = koliva] Wheel bearing.
If you have a chance to jack the car, I can also transfer the chip, which you will find out which side is broken.
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He already said so:

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... starts after 70 km / h,
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Koliva 2011-07-08 18:01:18

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He already said so:

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... starts after 70 km / h,
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As you know, the biggest finding of wheel bearing failure is that it starts after a certain speed and the sound gradually increases. Even in small steering movements, there may be sounds originating from the wheel bearing. We can definitely say that it is the wheel bearing for the first sentence, but the expression in the second sentence is not the subject of certainty. For example, studs that are not fully tightened can also make this sound.

Tomorrow somehow, I did not jack it up one by one, I check it right and left. Can you describe the method? I hope it is not due to the reason you said, let's not pay any expense for us. Though it doesn't count as much as I stopped, I had to go into the pits several times, Ankara roads are known :) Does it cause another problem, if it is caused by the bearing, do not leave it on the road? or not to charge more? Ozkan Kantarci 2011-07-08 18:31:15

[QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] Tomorrow somehow, I did not jack it up one by one I check it right and left. Can you describe the method? I hope it is not due to the reason you said, let's not pay any expense for us. Though it doesn't count as much as I stopped, I had to go into the pits several times, Ankara roads are known :) Does it cause another problem, if it is caused by the bearing, do not leave it on the road? or not to charge more? [/ QUOTE]

I don't think the bearing is too expensive. Here's what you will do:

First put your safety on the front and lift your vehicle to one side jack. With the wheel in the air, freeze it by hand and listen to the sound. If the wheel does not freeze completely, it points again to the bearing. Then put both hands on the cheek, but one is at 12 o'clock and the other is at 6 o'clock. Then try to move the wheel back and forth by moving your arms at different times. It shouldn't play. If it plays again, the bearing is bad.

If you don't hear any sound, then we look at other possibilities.

[QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] Somehow tomorrow, I did not jack it up one by one, I check it right and left. Can you describe the method? I hope it is not due to the reason you said, let's not pay any expense for us. Though it doesn't count as much as I stopped, I had to go into the pits several times, Ankara roads are known :) Does it cause another problem, if it is caused by the bearing, do not leave it on the road? or not to charge more? [/ QUOTE]

I don't think the bearing is too expensive. Here's what you will do:

First put your safety on the front and lift your vehicle to one side jack. With the wheel in the air, freeze it by hand and listen to the sound. If the wheel does not freeze completely, it points again to the bearing. Then put both hands on the cheek, but one is at 12 o'clock and the other is at 6 o'clock. Then try to move the wheel back and forth by moving your arms at different times. It shouldn't play. If it plays again, the bearing is bad.

If you don't hear any sound, then we look at other possibilities.
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[QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] Somehow, I will lift one by one with a jack, I check right and left. Can you describe the method? I hope it is not due to the reason you said, let's not pay any expense for us. Though it doesn't count as much as I stopped, I had to go into the pits several times, Ankara roads are known :) Does it cause another problem, if it is caused by the bearing, do not leave it on the road? or not to charge more? [/ QUOTE]

I don't think the bearing is too expensive. Here's what you will do:

First put your safety on the front and lift your vehicle to one side jack. With the wheel in the air, freeze it by hand and listen to the sound. If the wheel does not freeze completely, it points again to the bearing. Then put both hands on the cheek, but one is at 12 o'clock and the other is at 6 o'clock. Then try to move the wheel back and forth by moving your arms at different times. It shouldn't play. If it plays again, the bearing is bad.

If you don't hear any sound, then we look at other possibilities.
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Watch a presentation. You're looking for a sound like this:

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Or a shake like this:

[TUBE] jssc-lwb1lg [/ TUBE]

[QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] Tomorrow somehow, I did not jack it up one by one I check right and left. Can you describe the method? I hope it is not due to the reason you said, let's not pay any expense for us. Though it doesn't count as much as I stopped, I had to go into the pits several times, Ankara roads are known :) Does it cause another problem, if it is caused by the bearing, do not leave it on the road? or not to charge more? [/ QUOTE]

I don't think the bearing is too expensive. Here's what you will do:

First put your safety on the front and lift your vehicle to one side jack. With the wheel in the air, freeze it by hand and listen to the sound. If the wheel does not freeze completely, it points again to the bearing. Then put both hands on the cheek, but one is at 12 o'clock and the other is at 6 o'clock. Then try to move the wheel back and forth by moving your arms at different times. It shouldn't play. If it plays again, the bearing is bad.

If you don't hear any sound, then we look at other possibilities.
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Watch a presentation. You're looking for a sound like this:

Or a shake like this:

[/ QUOTE] ok, i will notify you. I hope it is not an important thing. Koliva 2011-07-08 20:04:10

I just checked both of the front wheels, as you said, no sound or shaking, it looks pretty solid, even the wheels. But when I grab the wheel and turn the tire, there is a friction noise, and the tire keeps rolling a few turns at most. I drive an average of 60 km every day, and about 5 km of this occurs on stony dusty roads due to road construction works. Could there be some kind of dust stuck somewhere? Or, as Metin said, it may be coming from pads or sound? Anything else you can think of?

the problem is that the discs will change both the linings and the discs will be handled by the lathe if the thickness of the discs is good, it will not be obvious as if it does not disassemble the 52 thousand bearing, but depending on usage edit: it is likely to be resolved by the lathe when it comes to the price 20 lira lathe 25 30 lira lining I do not need it because I used it in the city.

HAPPY PERSON 2011-07-09 13:24:49

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the problem is that the discs will change both the linings and the discs will be handled by the lathe if the thickness of the discs is good, it will not be obvious as if it does not disassemble the 52 thousand bearing, but depending on usage edit: it is likely to be resolved by the lathe when it comes to the price 20 lira lathe 25 30 lira lining I do not need it because I used it in the city.

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I replaced the original pads with original spare parts at 43,000 in the service. At that time they said it would go 5000 km, but I chose to change it so as not to damage the discs and not waste any more time. Now that the vehicle is at 52,000 km, is it possible for the original spare pads to end at 9000 km to damage the discs? I am the only user of the vehicle, my driving character has not changed, either? In terms of bearings, I have been into hard pits several times, maybe it may have been damaged, but we did not find any gaps or sounds during our check?

[QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = BAHTİYAR]

the problem is that the discs will change both the linings and the discs will be handled by the lathe if the thickness of the discs is good, it will not be obvious as if it does not disassemble the 52 thousand bearing, but depending on usage edit: it is likely to be resolved by the lathe when it comes to the price 20 lira lathe 25 30 lira lining I do not need it because I used it in the city.

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I replaced the original pads with original spare parts at 43,000 in the service. At that time they said it would go 5000 km, but I chose to change it so as not to damage the discs and not waste any more time. Now that the vehicle is at 52,000 km, is it possible for the original spare pads to end at 9000 km to damage the discs? I am the only user of the vehicle, my driving character has not changed, either? In terms of bearings, I have been into hard pits several times, maybe it may have been damaged, but we did not find any gaps or sounds during our check?
[/ QUOTE] I did not fully understand, did you replace the discs when you replace the pads? I did not say that the pads are already finished, because the surface of the disc is rough, it is worth the pad without pressing the brake and this sounds.

[QUOTE = BAHTİYAR] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = BAHTİYAR]

the problem is that the discs will change both the linings and the discs will be handled by the lathe if the thickness of the discs is good, it will not be obvious as if it does not disassemble the 52 thousand bearing, but depending on usage edit: it is likely to be resolved by the lathe when it comes to the price 20 lira lathe 25 30 lira lining I do not need it because I used it in the city.

[/ QUOTE]
I replaced the original pads with original spare parts at 43,000 in the service. At that time they said it would go 5000 km, but I chose to change it so as not to damage the discs and not waste any more time. Now that the vehicle is at 52,000 km, is it possible for the original spare pads to end at 9000 km to damage the discs? I am the only user of the vehicle, my driving character has not changed, either? In terms of bearings, I have been into hard pits several times, maybe it may have been damaged, but we did not find any gaps or sounds during our check?
[/ QUOTE] I did not fully understand, did you replace the discs when you replace the pads? I did not say that the pads are already finished, because the surface of the disc is rough, it is worth the pad without pressing the brake and this noise sounds [/ QUOTE]

No, I did not change it, but it was said that there was no problem with the disks. Maybe I know it wrong, but is it possible to damage the disc and roughen the surface before the pads run out?

[QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = BAHTİYAR] [QUOTE = Özkan Kantarcı] [QUOTE = BAHTİYAR]

the problem is that the discs will change both the linings and the discs will be handled by the lathe if the thickness of the discs is good, it will not be obvious as if it does not disassemble the 52 thousand bearing, but depending on usage edit: it is likely to be resolved by the lathe when it comes to the price 20 lira lathe 25 30 lira lining I do not need it because I used it in the city.

[/ QUOTE]
I replaced the original pads with original spare parts at 43,000 in the service. At that time they said it would go 5000 km, but I chose to change it so as not to damage the discs and not waste any more time. Now that the vehicle is at 52,000 km, is it possible for the original spare pads to end at 9000 km to damage the discs? I am the only user of the vehicle, my driving character has not changed, either? In terms of bearings, I have been into hard pits several times, maybe it may have been damaged, but we did not find any gaps or sounds during our check?
[/ QUOTE] I did not fully understand, did you replace the discs when you replace the pads? I did not say that the pads are already finished, because the surface of the disc is rough, it is worth the pad without pressing the brake and this noise sounds [/ QUOTE]

No, I did not change it, but it was said that there was no problem with the disks. Maybe I know it wrong, but is it possible to damage the disc and roughen the surface before the pads run out?
[/ QUOTE] is possible, every time they change the pad, they get the bill of the disc (the pulp) they do not serve in the service.

If it is a sub-industry, it makes sound to the lining, sometimes after using it for a while in our boxer.

I have the same sound in me, mine is doing the back right because of the distortion of the disc, but if your backs are not discs but ten discs can make tremor on the steering wheel, you can make them from the pads.