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08.05.2020 18:26 # 1
asirgumus
Hello friends ,
It has been about 2 months since I got the Peugeot 307 Tx (2004) and I bought my automatic gasoline vehicle at 191000 km.
When I was buying, I just took it to the gearbox and they said the gearbox is in very good condition, so I bought the blindfolded vehicle. I got on the 260 km gasoline and got the BRC brand LPG. After the LPG, strange things started to happen in the vehicle's automatic transmission.
There is no problem in the first move in the first morning. However, half an hour and forty-five minutes, the gear changes started to harden.
2. When I stop at the light, when I pull my foot from the brake and gas it, the vehicle moves as if it was in empty position according to the slope of the road.
3. After 1 hour, the vehicle is completely out of control. Even if it does not pass, it is proceeding as if it gives gas like an electric car, but it accelerates and decelerates in fixed gear and does not change gear.
4. The malfunction started to be increasing earlier and the airbag fault and breaking fault started to give automatic gear fault warnings on the screen.
With these problems, I visited 4-5 services and masters, and when I reported my troubles, they said it would cost 2000-2500 TL. First of all, let's change the electrovano and oil, it will cost 500-750tl. They said that there is no guarantee of solving the problem. I said your mastery .... I started to find my own solution.
so how did I solve it ,
After replacing the LPG to the 1st vehicle, I changed the 60 ampere bosh battery to 75 amperes pearl based on my senses that the airbag and abs error warnings were caused by voltage. error alerts were interrupted. I thought 60 amps would be insufficient because the lpg system draws extra current from the battery. I was not wrong.
I measured the oil in terms of the transmission of the 2nd vehicle 30000 km ago and considering that the oil was changed at this date when the electrovans were changed on this date and when I talked with the old owner and the old craftsman. and reduced the oil, which turned out to be 500-600g excess of the gearbox oil. vehicle relaxed
I have been using it for two weeks. There is no trace of my old complaints, my loser! I am very happy with my car right now.
Best regards
08.05.2020 18:26 # 2
Burak
As you said, I am glad that the problem is solved in the past, there is no bad peugeot or any brand, there is a bad master, I always defended this.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 3
serkomser
Everything has a measure, I know that. There is an abnormality in my vehicle too but I would be comfortable if I could solve it. Get well by the way.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 4
mehmethannn
get well, master. I am very glad to solve the problem.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 5
asirgumus

the mistrust of masters started after the water flow problem under the mat on the driver's side from the heater core, they asked for 400 TL for 2 TL gasket replacement. Thanks to the form, a friend of mine explained it in detail, and after that, I compile and interpret the ideas that I have visited the masters.

08.05.2020 18:26 # 6
lesath
I also have a gear. Six months ago, in Ankara Aydoğmuş, I changed the solenoid and oil, the knocks disappeared, but for a few weeks he was stuck in the 3rd gear. It turns on when the ignition is turned on and off, but it repeats shortly .. A strange situation ..
08.05.2020 18:26 # 7
asirgumus
Guys, I have a bad news for you and the problem recurred in me again: (After 45 minutes, the temperature rises and he warns "Automatic Gear Gear Fault" and protects himself in the 3rd gear. I plan to skip my radio and overhaul the entire cooling system this weekend.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 8
aokaymaz
[QUOTE = asirgumus] Guys, I have a bad news for you, and the problem recurred in me too: (After 45 minutes, the temperature rises, and the "Automatic Gear Gear Fault" warning and protects itself in the 3rd gear. (electroplating) I can not do the task.I plan to skip my radio this weekend and overhaul the entire cooling system.I will inform you again according to the situation. [/ QUOTE]
Since these problems are caused by the oil getting too hot, there is no thermostat that opens at 70 degrees (temperature sensor)
When the water temperature reaches 70-75 degrees, the fan starts, so when the water temperature does not increase, the oil does not heat up too much.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 9
serkomser
[QUOTE = not ignore] [QUOTE = asirgumus] Guys, I have bad news, the problem has relapsed me again :( The temperature rises after 45 minutes and gives "Automatic Gear Gear Fault" warning and protects itself in 3rd gear. But my new thesis is cooling The system cannot handle the solenoids (electroplating) because the gearbox oil cannot be cooled.
Since these problems are caused by the oil getting too hot, there is no thermostat that opens at 70 degrees (temperature sensor)
When the water temperature reaches 70-75 degrees, the fan starts, so when the water temperature does not increase, the oil does not heat up too much.
[/ QUOTE]
Aarç burns raw up to 70 degrees. I also have a warming problem when my car is cold, there is no problem when it gets hot, kidnapping in 3rd gear, vibration and kidnapping in 2nd gear, jerky transition occasionally knocking. I follow the subject very closely. I wonder if the cooling channels are blocked? I do not think there is an insufficient cooling system. It is only neglected.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 10
206cc57
Hi ,

When the knock and atomatic gear fault fault and the error of being stuck in 3rd gear became frequent, I changed the gearbox oil at the authorized service. I gave the error :(, and during the 400 km process, it failed 3 times in total, I hope it will recover when the contact is on and off. did not, I did not think that the cause of the error was due to the oil temperature, I would like to ask if it could be related to the amount of oil in the gearbox? If it is more or missing, it fails in gear changes?
Because almost every day, the vehicle, which gives errors every day, has reduced the number of errors and knocks to a minimum after the oil change.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 11
serkomser

Guys, what does this Track do? Couldn't the reason for the knock be an electrical problem?


Are Renault Solenoid valves also Pejo compatible? The valve installed on my vehicle is ..








Eurest 2014-05-05 12:07:06
08.05.2020 18:26 # 12
Spectre968
There is no need to stop and restart the vehicle if the vehicle has put itself in protection mode in 3rd gear. If you put it in " SNOW " mode, the gears come back . When you use it for a while, when you switch back to normal mode, you will see that the car exits the protection mode.

I experienced the same situation last summer, the masters suggested firstly seleniod valve and oil change, and if it did not work, they said the transmission change. As a result of the first option, the crash event, which was 4-5 times a day, first decreased to 1-2 a week, then to a monthly month, and continued to decrease. Those who live in Ankara know the ramp to Dikmen junction on Konya road). I plan to replace the gearbox oil again as soon as possible and hopefully it will be improved as before.

I think that the condition of the oil and the oil temperature are important in solving this problem.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 13
206cc57
Hello, I will try too, there is a slope in our Istanbul eagle. I get knocked down when I get out of there and take it under protection.
08.05.2020 18:26 # 14
murat_206
I have the same problem with me, brother, but when it rains, I look at the gold or something. There is nothing.
02.07.2021 23:38 # 15
layuhti
I have a 2007 model symbol al4 transmission vehicle. After the LPG was installed, I experienced the same problems in the same order. They cost between 7-8 thousand TL. After reading this article, I decided to give it a try. I put the 75A battery in my neighbor's car to test it and all the problems were fixed. The year is 2021. Thank you very much for this information from years ago.
27.07.2021 10:11 # 16
ralf_fb
Hello, my vehicle is 2004 307 automatic LPG, a friend asked what is the use of the following part in 2014, it has been 4 years since I bought the vehicle, the vehicle has not been working in P for the last 1 year. When I pulled it, the vehicle did not take off, as if it was hit from behind, it made a thumping sound and then took off, when I asked the masters about this situation, they talked about many different reasons, so I was undecided because I could not do every single operation, and at that time I took a long road, the vehicle started to not work on N anymore. And I stayed on the road, while playing with the gear, it worked by chance and then when I pushed the gear somewhere between N and R, I figured out that it worked. In this case, I finished my work and went back to Istanbul. After talking to a few transmission manufacturers, I found out that it was due to the part in the link. not working and not eating gas when stopped at lights and the problem that occurred as if someone hit the back with a thud disappeared. I used the car many times in July and August heat for 1 month, I did not have a problem, I added it here as it may be useful for others. a href="http://www.peugeotmarket.com/PEUGEOT-307-OTOMVITES-K ONTAKTOR-SALTER,PR-2425.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http:// www.peugeotmarket.com/PEUGEOT-307-OTOMVITES-KONTAKTOR-SALTER,PR-2425.html
27.07.2021 10:21 # 17
ralf_fb
By the way, the adjustment of this part called automatic gear contactor or position switch was done as follows. For additional information, if you come across a master who does not know his job, you can teach it. There is a tip and the probes of the measuring instrument are connected to each of those terminals and the beep sound mode is put, when the gear is taken to D or R, the beep sound should be heard from the instrument, they adjust it by leaving a slight gap and moving the switch screws, if it beeps in both (D and R) gears It stays in that setting and the screws are tightened and the process is completed.
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