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08.05.2020 19:18 # 1
turgay307
hello everyone, friends i have been using peugeot 307 auto for 6 months. 2002 model. the problems of this car are known, the signal lever, the shock sounds from the shock absorbers, if the LPG, the needle of the gas gauge is falling like it is constantly on the gas, etc. etc. We can tolerate these problems due to the pleasant driving and power of the vehicle. but the biggest and the most costly is al4 gearbox . This gearbox is more of a problem with the electro valve problem, warming up problem, small oil cooler, shifting gears due to the inability to cool the gear a bit, or the inability to take off if it gets hotter or ramps or hot weather. or this warming problem shortens the life of the oil, or overheated oil can spoil the electrovantages. I have researched in many places, I asked the most famous masters, who I solve, they say I get 900 TL. My main question is, is there anyone who can experience this problem and how can you solve it? Thank you from now
08.05.2020 19:18 # 2
berk2309
Hodja, you can not prevent warming in summer, whatever you do, I tried to remove the thermostat and try to knock it out, but it is not futile. If the new heat exchanger solves the event, I will change it immediately: D, if it starts after the solenoid oil change outside of it, if there is no room for updating, it may be knocked out from the bushes inside it, or in some cases, the masters can make red oil. When changing your oil, take your light between your two fingers and check the gurgling fluidity and smell, if there is a burning smell, there is a possibility that one of the pads may be burned.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 3
KILIC
I drew my attention on Sunday, after I climbed a ramp in Kahramanmaraş, it was hot in the air, of course, when I stood up, I did not shout at 2, I got the triptonige, but also got stuck. I stopped the car and started it again. I guess that there is a problem with the warm-up. I will go to the gearbox over the weekend. 6 months ago, the gearbox is completely overhauled. Let's see if I have a solution.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 4
turgay307
Well, friends, this is a big problem and this needs to be corrected. I'm going to go on vacation in summer and I'm afraid. Authorized service oil cooler was 4 honeycombs, we now produce 6 honeycombs, and we follow it, it definitely does not cause any trouble in cooling, but come on
08.05.2020 19:18 # 5
KILIC
[QUOTE = turgay307] Jove friends this is a big problem and this needs to be corrected. I'm going to go on vacation in summer and I'm afraid. Authorized service oil cooler was 4 honeycombs, we now produce 6 honeycombs and we follow it, it definitely does not cause any trouble in cooling but let's go [[QUOTE]

I had read somewhere in the forum, a friend bought a radiator over 2006, but I couldn't remember it as if he had said something like it could not be installed.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 6
turgay307
I think the radiator has no crime, the engine water temperature is 95 degrees, but the transmission temperature is 125 degrees.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 7
berk2309
My teacher, I did not change the heat exchanger, but I did not change the heat exchanger, but he did not have the same solution, but the master in the service of the piano was solved. I did a lot of research but I didn't give up. Also, after warming up, I dont throw a gear and shout, and I also had a revision before I checked it, check your pressure, look at the solenoids and change your oil.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 8
turgay307
My master has revised the previous owner from me. I have already changed the oil and solenoids of the car. He said that when a master essential oil changes this day, there is no problem.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 9
talip206
I think it is not related to heat when it knocks in heavy traffic. I think that when the vehicle shifts to second gear for a long time because it does not stop at 1st gear, it does not knock the related part for a long time. So I think it is a problem with the lubrication problem rather than overheating. Al4's chronic problem
08.05.2020 19:18 # 10
palet
Use your car with Air Conditioning on. From the moment you turn on the air conditioner, the air conditioner fan will start to work continuously and cool the radiator and therefore it will cool in the gearbox.

08.05.2020 19:18 # 11
turgay307
I tried, but it didn't work, I went to Antalya. There is no problem in the water of the car. He's already staying at 90 degrees when he puts the air conditioner on. The important thing is that the cold water does not cool overheated transmission oil, so the cooler remains too small.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 12
turgay307
I am waiting for the answer
08.05.2020 19:18 # 13
ubkubk
[QUOTE = KILIÇ] I drew my attention on Sunday. I stopped the car and started it again. I guessed that there was a problem with the warm-up. I will go to the gearbox over the weekend.
No, our hero, Kahramanmaraş is not able to adapt to every car like this, your car needs to be trained for 2 years in order to be comfortable here.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 14
KILIC
[QUOTE = turgay307] I am waiting for your answer to the question asked brother [/ QUOTE]
Unfortunately, I could not go to the gearbox, I could not find any opportunity.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 15
KILIC
[QUOTE = ubkubk] [QUOTE = KILIÇ] It caught my attention on Sunday. I stopped the car and started it again. I guessed that there was a problem with the warm-up. I will go to the gearbox over the weekend.
No, our hero, Kahramanmaraş is not able to adapt to every car like this, your car needs to be trained for 2 years in order to be comfortable here.
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:))) I think he should get an internship if I go back a couple of times. Fortunately, I don't have a problem right now, I had come from gaziantep that day, the weather was very hot, and I pressed it on the ramp. If you come to gaziantepe by the way, I will definitely wait.
08.05.2020 19:18 # 16
ubkubk
[QUOTE = SWORD]

:))) I think he should get an internship if I go back a couple of times. Fortunately, I don't have a problem right now, I had come from gaziantep that day, the weather was very hot, and I pressed it on the ramp. If you come to gaziantepe by the way, I will definitely wait.
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I hope I will write to you from here before, if I come to my road. Nobody should have a problem, everyone should use their car in their healthiest days with the taste of their mouth. Our vehicles are already suffering from bad degradation, and when such malfunctions happen, instead of helping people, the morale deteriorates when they speak in the style of "hah, if you get 307".
08.05.2020 19:18 # 17
bagdinli
Hello friends. I also have the troubles you mentioned. I have 307 automatic vehicles in 2003 model 150 thousand km. When I use it a lot in the city, when it is too hard to stop, it shifts first for about 2 hours, while shifting gears as if it is a novice driving a manual gear vehicle, then it grasps and gears up slowly. Also, yesterday, Eskişehir did not go off a ramp, I put it into snow mode and it did not solve the problem. Finally, I pulled aside, I waited for 1 hour, and it improved a little. I think the problem is related to warming. Did you find a solution in this regard? I'm going to Izmir on Thursday next week. Are there any good masters you know about this?
14.07.2020 19:57 # 18
murattgr
Friends, the subject is quite old, but maybe it will be a solution to friends who meet again. I also have a 2004 model 307. When I first got the vehicle, there was only water in the radiator spare water canister, I went 1000 km on a long road without stopping, I did not have a problem.I put antifreeze in the winter and I had the problem of increasing the temperature and keeping the gear at D in the summer, even with the manual gear, and never throwing it. Finally, while I was going to Iskanbula in the winter, I didn't breathe at all. I had a complete zero gearbox and 3 months ago I went down the Elmadağ slope in hot weather and the same problem was stuck in D. Maybe I changed the water one after the other in my various experiments, each time it was rusty and small rust particles came out. First of all, I changed the heater core and my problem somewhat improved. I emptied the water again, but when I saw the rust, I replaced the original spare water canister and cover (Original) and my problem was fixed. I think the most important reason for the warming is not being able to do the recirculation enough, I think it is useful to try all of them for 400 liras. Also, if your automatic vehicle goes with 90 at 3000 rpm, the gas cycle will increase. If the vehicle does not go, your brake switch is broken and your problem will be corrected when you change it for 20 TL.
15.07.2020 14:45 # 19
muzzy35
[QUOTE = murattgr] Friends the subject is quite old, but maybe it will be a solution to the friends who meet again. I also have a 2004 model 307. When I first got the vehicle, there was only water in the radiator spare water canister, I went 1000 km on a long road without stopping, I did not have a problem.I put antifreeze in the winter and I had the problem of increasing the temperature and keeping the gear at D in the summer, even with the manual gear, and never throwing it. Finally, while I was going to Iskanbula in the winter, I didn't breathe at all. I had a complete zero gearbox and 3 months ago I went down the Elmadağ slope in hot weather and the same problem was stuck in D. Maybe I changed the water one after the other in my various experiments, each time it was rusty and small rust particles came out. First of all, I changed the heater core and my problem somewhat improved. I emptied the water again, but when I saw the rust, I changed the original spare water canister and lid (Original) and my problem was fixed. If the vehicle does not go, your brake switch is out of order. When you change 20 TL, your problem will be corrected [/ QUOTE] Thank you bro
16.07.2020 09:25 # 20
Vedat adalan
The only solution is to change the transmission oil radiator, that's why I changed the complete gearbox, the warming was resolved, but the extension started in 4 gears.
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