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08.05.2020 20:59 # 1
ebirol
Hello everyone, I just joined you. I've been reading here for a long time, actually.
I bought my car 3 months ago. The 2010 model was 1.6h with make-up. Right now at 205k km. & Nbsp;

After buying the vehicle, my priority is to concentrate on them if there is a motor-mechanical problem. First, on my first long way, I noticed the failure of the Exhaust Emission System Fault with a malfunction lamp when it was shifted down on a ramp and loaded into the gas. Of course, as a result of the feature of our 407s, the cycle was immediately restricted at 3000 rpm. It was a while later. I don't know exactly what it was caused by, but my most intense doubt was my injector that missed diesel oil. I immediately went to the injector, opened and cleaned, the gasket, etc. changed and now I am not getting this error anymore. & nbsp;
Then I occasionally got the esp / brake system malfunction but after that, no engine malfunction lamp ever lit up as in other people.
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I tried to squeeze the car in between and I had no problems. However, the story is not over here, last week, when the car was loaded on a ramp (5 people + full baggage) again, the gear shifted to 5 to 4 and again a malfunction lamp. This time the error is: "Engine fault: Repair needed" and 3000d / d protection mode again. Of course, it passed again soon. But after 1 month, I do not know why this has happened this time.

In order to better convey the current situation, there is no noticeable loss of traction in my vehicle. It's pretty good in terms of performance. At 200,000 km. The only other problem that can be reconciled is that when it goes around 1300 rpm, the car is singled out. This is only happening in these times and it is not reflected in the time of the hour.

What do you think is the problem? I have read many topics before. I saw possibilities like EGR, Catalyst, Throat Butterfly. However, I thought maybe we could make an event-specific assessment.
08.05.2020 20:59 # 2
GokhaN
I think your problem seems to be a catalyst, because the control does not completely remove the vehicle's exhaust fumes, the control is activated and limited.
08.05.2020 20:59 # 3
ebirol
[QUOTE = GökhaN] I think your problem looks like a catalyst, the load is activated and limited because it does not fully remove the exhaust fumes of the vehicle.
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As far as I know, its cleaning is not very efficient. It is necessary to cancel, I will go to the master of the feast return, but I want to determine in my head until I return.
Do you think the misfire issue in 1300 rpm is from the catalyst?
ebirol 2018-08-17 16:30:45
08.05.2020 20:59 # 4
GokhaN
[QUOTE = ebirol] [QUOTE = GökhaN] I think your problem looks like a catalyst, the control is activated and limited because it does not fully remove the exhaust fumes of the vehicle.
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As far as I know, its cleaning is not very efficient. It is necessary to cancel, I will go to the master of the feast return, but I want to determine in my head until I return.
Do you think the misfire issue in 1300 rpm is from the catalyst?
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I can not say anything because I never had the cleaning done. In 1300 cycles event, I think from injectors
08.05.2020 20:59 # 5
necmettinn
I had a similar problem. I got the ABS // ESP error first and then the "Engine fault: Repair needed" error on the ramp . The vehicle, which seemed normal at first, then started kicking and giving this error while on the road not to work. When I took it to my mechanic, we couldn't solve the problem first, but when he did not work there, he connected it to the computer and checked it and said that he could not see the injectors. Conclusion: It turned out that there was a contactlessness in a socket that was accessible from inside the fender hood on the side of the engine's belts, which I did not know what socket it was. Thank goodness since I changed it almost 3000 km. I made no way to click. I wonder if there could be a problem in the same socket?
08.05.2020 20:59 # 6
ebirol
[QUOTE = necmettinn] I had a similar problem. I got the ABS // ESP error first and then the "Engine fault: Repair needed" error on the ramp . The vehicle, which seemed normal at first, then started kicking and giving this error while on the road not to work. When I took it to my mechanic, we couldn't solve the problem first, but when he did not work there, he connected it to the computer and checked it and said that he could not see the injectors. Conclusion: It turned out that there was a contactlessness in a socket that was accessible from inside the fender hood on the side of the engine's belts, which I did not know what socket it was. Thank goodness since I changed it almost 3000 km. I made no way to click. I wonder if there could be a problem in the same socket? [/ QUOTE]
Thank you for your attention, and I will go to the master at a suitable time next week. Let's examine what we can see, let me tell you the socket you mentioned. I traveled 2500 km on the holiday, I also watched at high speeds for a long time on the highway, after driving about 400 500 km on a ramp, I guess the same malfunction lamp burned at a time when I guess the bottom gas. It seems to me that it may be related to the exos system because it does what it does when it compresses the engine, maybe the catalyst maybe egr. But it may also be related to the injector ...

Well, when it enters the restriction mode at 3000 rpm, does it disable the turbo? Does it seem to me that the turbo is activated?
08.05.2020 20:59 # 7
kutay5365
we have a 2.0 executive. last year it was making the same mistake and gasing itself. even on the road with 120. We looked at everything from the fuse tray to the brain and the problem was in the injector. We spent 3000 TL for a material of 150 lira. look at the injectors I think
08.05.2020 20:59 # 8
ebirol
I went to the master today, periodic maintenance-timing-circulation changed with the originals. In addition, as I read here, we changed it with the original while it was ready to be from the Turbo Electrovalue. At the end of the processes, we tried again, I stuck it on a ramp and the same fault lamp came on with the same message :)
When this obd connects the fault lamp I mentioned, the turbo pressure was high. Go to the turbocharger makes this malfunction from the turbo, a check will be solved, he said most likely.
08.05.2020 20:59 # 9
ebirol
Is there a well working turbocharger on the Anatolian side that you would recommend for turbo control and necessary revisions?
08.05.2020 20:59 # 10
ebirol
I am writing my solution to enter the literature Smile
I got it connected to the computer last week, I took the photo of the fault codes when it became available.
It was said that it was necessary to check the solenoid valve because the turbo was discharging late, so the master thought it gave a high pressure malfunction. Solution alternatives offered by the master:
1. There may be cracks in the hoses leading to Elektrovana, which may cause the pressure not to adjust,
2. The locations of Elektrovana (turbo solenoid valve) from three inlets (inlet, outlet, discharge) may be incorrectly connected.
3. The solenoid valve may be defective.

We eliminated the third item because I changed it during a week's maintenance.
I left the car for the hose control, even a little hopeless to get out of something else. However, when it was checked, we saw that the second item appeared unexpectedly. When I picked up the car, it turned out that when the car was forced, the malfunction lamp was on (around 3000d / d), and in maintenance it means that our master had installed it in the same way. Now, there is no problem for a week, even though I make various difficulties, it does not say click.
08.05.2020 20:59 # 11
ocaliptus
Don't let me clean the catalyst, clean if cleanable. The master would evacuate that there was a noise coming from my vehicle, the catalyst, the car started to burn a lot and not to pull at the lower revs. I am looking for a new one but it is not produced. I found it in an exhaust manufacturer in Trabzon 2300 TL. I'm looking for a clean exit
08.05.2020 20:59 # 12
HasGur
[QUOTE = ebirol] I am writing my solution to enter the literature Smile
I got it connected to the computer last week, I took the photo of the fault codes when it became available.
It was said that it was necessary to check the solenoid valve because the turbo was discharging late, so the master thought it gave a high pressure malfunction. Solution alternatives offered by the master:
1. There may be cracks in the hoses leading to Elektrovana, which may cause the pressure not to adjust,
2. The locations of Elektrovana (turbo solenoid valve) from three inlets (inlet, outlet, discharge) may be incorrectly connected.
3. The solenoid valve may be defective.

We eliminated the third item because I changed it during a week's maintenance.
I left the car for the hose control, even a little hopeless to get out of something else. However, when it was checked, we saw that the second item appeared unexpectedly. When I picked up the car, it turned out that when the car was forced, the malfunction lamp was on (around 3000d / d), and in maintenance it means that our master had installed it in the same way. Now, there is no problem for a week, even though I make various difficulties, it does not say click.
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You are one of the rare people who wrote the solution to the problem, congratulations.

On the other hand, the people who are insufficient enough to make the connections to the solenoid valve incorrectly have the title of "repairman" ... When I hear such things, I can't stop saying "Wow, wow become the people of my country"!
08.05.2020 20:59 # 13
serkanertas
[QUOTE = necmettinn] I had a similar problem. I got the ABS // ESP error first and then the "Engine fault: Repair needed" error on the ramp . The vehicle, which seemed normal at first, then started kicking and giving this error while on the road not to work. When I took it to my mechanic, we couldn't solve the problem first, but when he did not work there, he connected it to the computer and checked it and said that he could not see the injectors. Conclusion: It turned out that there was a contactlessness in a socket that was accessible from inside the fender hood on the side of the engine's belts, which I did not know what socket it was. Thank goodness since I changed it almost 3000 km. I made no way to click. I wonder if there could be a problem in the same socket? [/ QUOTE]

Hello, first of all, I am glad that you have the same problem since you have reached the solution, I saw the 3000 rpm, the obstacle is preventing it from behind, but it does not show any trouble under 3000 rpm.
08.05.2020 20:59 # 14
serkanertas
[QUOTE = serkanertas] [QUOTE = necmettinn] I had a similar problem. I got the ABS // ESP error first and then the "Engine fault: Repair needed" error on the ramp . The vehicle, which seemed normal at first, then started kicking and giving this error while on the road not to work. When I took it to my mechanic, we couldn't solve the problem first, but when he did not work there, he connected it to the computer and checked it and said that he could not see the injectors. Conclusion: It turned out that there was a contactlessness in a socket that was accessible from inside the fender hood on the side of the engine's belts, which I did not know what socket it was. Thank goodness since I changed it almost 3000 km. I made no way to click. I wonder if there could be a problem in the same socket? [/ QUOTE]

Hello, first of all, I am glad that you have the same problem since you have reached the solution, I saw the 3000 rpm, the obstacle is preventing it from behind, but it does not show any trouble under 3000 rpm.
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Anyway, I did it by mistake, I looked at whatever it was. LOLSmileSmile
08.05.2020 20:59 # 15
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = serkanertas] [QUOTE = serkanertas] [QUOTE = necmettinn] I had a similar problem. I got the ABS // ESP error first and then the "Engine fault: Repair needed" error on the ramp . The vehicle, which seemed normal at first, then started kicking and giving this error while on the road not to work. When I took it to my mechanic, we couldn't solve the problem first, but when he did not work there, he connected it to the computer and checked it and said that he could not see the injectors. Conclusion: It turned out that there was a contactlessness in a socket that was accessible from inside the fender hood on the side of the engine's belts, which I did not know what socket it was. Thank goodness since I changed it almost 3000 km. I made no way to click. I wonder if there could be a problem in the same socket? [/ QUOTE]

Hello, first of all, I am glad that you have the same problem since you have reached the solution, I saw the 3000 rpm, the obstacle is preventing it from behind, but it does not show any trouble under 3000 rpm.
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Thanks for the feedback, sir. I'm glad your problem is solved.


Anyway, I did it by mistake, I looked at whatever it was. LOLSmileSmile
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08.05.2020 20:59 # 16
Redmoon
Hello everybody.
I'm very new in the forum. As I know, I bought 407 1.6 hdi comfort two weeks ago
There was no trouble in the vehicle. Only the upper plastic had oil sweating there. It was a little greasy. The master said it does not cause any problems.
We took the arbayi from the maras and got a tour from the top of Bursa, Antalya.
We traveled 3000 km in total. Only once in 2000's 2000 defects, the temperature indicator suddenly flashed and STOP text appeared.
I stopped less than 5 minutes. I pressed back. It went quite normally
When I got back to Bursa, I said, yesterday, I will wash the engine. What level of fat is what happens in the body.
But in the morning of my wash the engine light came on and I received the engine fault repair needed warning
We connected to the PC flow meter sensor error appeared
Nese erased the error but after 15 minutes it stopped when he stopped and started back. Just now. Like the night, the heat of light burned and the hand rested and wrote STOP. I paused again, then pressed back. It worked without any abnormality.
My problem is that the acmometer should be wondering if I am hot.
Can anyone show this situation in a scholarship ???
By the way, when I bought the vehicle it was 157 thousand, 160 thousand defects now
the redmoon 2019-07-14 11:17:36
08.05.2020 20:59 # 17
erkanengin
I have been dealing with this problem for 2 years. I still have no parts. I still have no solution. FUEL GIVES HIGH PRESSURE ERRORS AND STOPS IN CAR SHUTS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE A BORDER IN IZMIR THERE IS A LONG PEJO MASTER THAT EVERYTHING HEADS. I DON'T KNOW HOW
08.05.2020 20:59 # 18
Redmoon
Maybe it's just a simple sensor malfunction.
Because there is no problem with the check in the car's departure. There is no abnormal condition in the car. It just confuses the light head. In the future, he shouldn't have a big expense. I would like to show you if there is a robust electronicist brainer in Bursa.
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