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08.05.2020 16:06 # 1
ynusemre
How are friends adding radiator water to the vehicle? There is a box on the left side of the engine with max min expressions, the level has decreased to `min` level. Antifreeze is put here?
The water bottle in my hand was a boner, but I took a look at the engine and then snatched it back :) Emrekny 2011-09-09 10:17:08
08.05.2020 16:06 # 2
koliva
[QUOTE = Emrekny] How are friends adding radiator water to the vehicle? On the left side of the engine, there is a box with max min inscriptions, the level has decreased to `min` level.
The water bottle in my hand was a boner, but I looked at the engine and closed it back :) [/ QUOTE]

Yes, you will add the captain that says the max min you see. However, you should not add water to the normal body. We are ready to buy antifreeze-water mixes on the market, you can add from it. Pure antifreeze is not recommended. It must have a mixture of antifreeze water.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 3
ynusemre
Yes, I intended to add the lid strangely, but when I gave up, I saw a liquid close to brown color. Thank you bro ...
08.05.2020 16:06 # 4
34sea45
2.5 liters 5 TL for gas stations.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 5
koliva
[QUOTE = Emrekny] yes, I intend to add the lid strange but I will see a liquid close to brown in the bottle. Thank you bro ... [/ QUOTE]

Then go for the replacement of the whole liquid. I have never seen brown coolant Gülme
08.05.2020 16:06 # 6
ynusemre
It seemed strange to me, I couldn't compare it to water antifreeze. The overheating of the city over 90 and then again collecting it. Could it be like water oil mixing. Or how do I completely renew the water .. Emrekny 2011-09-09 11:23:46
08.05.2020 16:06 # 7
koliva
[QUOTE = Emrekny] sounded strange to me, I wasn't able to compare it to much water. How can I completely renew the water? [/ QUOTE]

If your hand is somewhat susceptible to these works, you will unclip the bottom of the flexible pipes coming into the radiator and all the water in the vehicle will be released. Then you will replace it and add new antifreeze water from the canister with the min-max level you just mentioned.

Normally, there is a vacuum tool in the services and on the one hand they give new water and on the other hand they take the water inside. So there is no handcuffing solution. The decision is yours.
Koliva 2011-09-09 11:24:19
08.05.2020 16:06 # 8
ynusemre
Thank you, let me try it today.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 9
metin
[QUOTE = koliva] [QUOTE = Emrekny] seemed strange to me, I couldn't quite compare it to the water antifreeze. How can I completely renew the water? [/ QUOTE]

If your hand is somewhat susceptible to these works, you will unclip the bottom of the flexible pipes coming into the radiator and all the water in the vehicle will be released. Then you will replace it and add new antifreeze water from the canister with the min-max level you just mentioned.

Normally, there is a vacuum tool in the services and on the one hand they give new water and on the other hand they take the water inside. So there is no handcuffing solution. The decision is yours.
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can i change the koliva too (:
08.05.2020 16:06 # 10
SZKR
Of course, the liquid will be a harmful chemical to the nature ... the best thing is to handle it for 10-20 liras in the industry. When the water changes, the master picks up the fiber, inserts it into the channel, maybe the oil leaks, sees the water leaks ... the master's hand is better to touch.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 11
metin
[QUOTE = SZKR] The liquid will be a harmful chemical to the nature ... the best thing is to handle it for 10-20 liras in the industry. When the water changes, the master takes the fiber, inserts it into the channel, maybe it sees the oil leakage, the water leaks ... it is better to touch the master hand briefly [/ QUOTE]
yes this is the most beautiful and solid. But if it is simple, I would like to do it myself because I like to deal with my car.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 12
koliva
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can i change the koliva too (:
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Why not Gülme

[QUOTE = SZKR] The liquid will be a harmful chemical to the nature ... the best thing is to handle it for 10-20 liras in the industry. When the water changes, the master takes the fiber, inserts it into the channel, maybe it sees the oil leakage, the water leaks ... it is better to touch the master hand briefly [/ QUOTE]

A nice point. Flowing water must be collected and delivered to special locations. For example, here (Belgium) you cannot dispose of such water in normal sewage. If you throw and get caught, you will get enough punishment at your door. There are baton collecting places we call containerpark for this. In these places, there is a special place for all kinds of batons. You go and throw it away. You have to pay for some waste.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 13
metin
koliva then let's talk to you in a little detail:
I am going to change it, but I am afraid of making air, and I have heard that it is better that they put all antifreeze. you have to know how many liters it takes etc.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 14
koliva
[QUOTE=metin]koliva ozaman seninle biraz ayrıntılı görüşelim şu işi (:
değiştirmesine değiştirecem ama hava yapma işinden çekiniyoru birde tamamını antifriz koyduklarını daha iyi olduğunu falan duymuştum. tamamen kaç litre alıyor vs bilmek lazım.
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Diger baslikta buna cevap yazmistim ama sanirim gozunden kacmis. Asagiya kopyaliyorum.

Sadece antifiriz nasil koyuyorlarmis merak ettim. Eger oyleyse burada yapilan muhtemelen bilgisizlikten ve duz mantik yurutmekten kaynaklanan buyuk bir yanlislik var. Biraz aciklamaya calisayim.

Antifiriz dedigimiz madde etilen glikoldur(ethylene glycol). Bu madde kimyevi yapisindan dolayi donmaya karsi dayaniklidir. Bunun benzer birde dietilen glikol vardir ki ayni ozelligi gosterir. Bu madde de silecek suyu olarak kullanilir. Araclarimiza saf antifiriz aldigimizda icerisine su katmamiz gerekir. Bunun nedeni ise etilen glikol molekulleri ile su molekulleri ile bir araya geldiginde olusan bilesimin kati bir kristal yapiya donusmesidir. Bu yapinin olusmasi da bu bilesigin donma noktasini asagiya ceker. Bu arada saf antifirizin donma seviyesi -12 derecedir. Asagidaki tabloya baktigimizda, ne kadar su eklersek, bilesigimizin hangi donma noktasina sahip oldugunu gorebiliriz. Gorulecegi gibi %70 antifiriz, %30 su karisimi en dusuk donma noktasini verir(-51 derece). Ulkemizde -20 derece alti soguk pek olmadigindan dolayi genellikle %50 antifiriz, %50 su karisimi yapilir.


Etilen Glikol Yuzdesi

Donma Noktasi(derece C)

0

0

10

-4

20

-7

30

-15

40

-23

50

-34

60

-48

70

-51

80

-45

90

-29

100

-12



08.05.2020 16:06 # 15
okan77

Well, isn't there such a situation as taking air from the radiator in these 307s? Can we drain the water and put it again?

08.05.2020 16:06 # 16
koliva
[QUOTE = okan77]

Well, isn't there such a situation as taking air from the radiator in these 307s? Can we drain the water and put it again?

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There is a bleeding place. On the back of the battery is on the pipes leading to the radiator.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 17
metin
koliva is also watching around -10 here. Then I think it is enough to put 30% antifreeze and 70% water in my vehicle. So how many tracts does it take to calculate the antifreeze?
as far as I understand;
1-I will drain the water first,
2-I will tighten the place I drained and add my antifreeze water mixture from the expansion tank (the tank that says min-max).
3- I will continue to add water by removing the air from the bleed plug on the back of the battery and until I complete the level.
This information is sufficient for change. When I put water in the radiator, water flow will not be provided due to the thermostat. How do we handle it?
08.05.2020 16:06 # 18
SZKR
The bleed channel must remain open throughout the water filling process. You put the water and max. water level will decrease when you start the engine for a short time after bringing it to the level. You will have to add it on again. Moreover, it is not possible to completely drain the water in the engine gallery of the radiator hose. There are holes drilled on the engine block during manufacturing to drain the water in the entire gallery, but I don't know where and how.

Koliva said `but I couldn't hold myself. : If I'm wrong, I'm sure it will fix it ..
08.05.2020 16:06 # 19
Guests
Be careful, wait for a short time, you say okay then you are looking at nothing. a master had changed mine, a pity the man had blown from the end of the pipe, poured it from one side and filled it completely last winter, then I took a look, the engine warning lamp came on, I was not far from God, when I arrived, the master completed it immediately.

Another point was that I would always see a bluish color antifreeze (friends approached with the logic of oil and said brown change) but today we added antifreeze to the car of our brother and the color you know was brown. I think it was the product of the oil office.
08.05.2020 16:06 # 20
koliva
[QUOTE = text] koliva watches around -10 here too. Then I think it is enough to put 30% antifreeze and 70% water in my vehicle. So how many tracts does it take to calculate the antifreeze?
as far as I understand;
1-I will drain the water first,
2-I will tighten the place I drained and add my antifreeze water mixture from the expansion tank (the tank that says min-max).
3- I will continue to add water by removing the air from the bleed plug on the back of the battery and until I complete the level.
This information is sufficient for change. When I put water in the radiator, water flow will not be provided due to the thermostat. How do we handle it?
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SZKR is very nice and I am adding a few things.
By inserting the hose under the radiator, we can only drain the water in the radiator. This corresponds to 40-45% of the entire system. You can extract the water in the engine blog either from the thermostat or by inserting the pipes that enter the interior cabinet for the heater. However, I have not seen much.

1. Insert the pipe under the radiator and the old coolant in the radiator is opposite.
2. This option can be skipped, but can be done. Let the garden hoses fly and flow to the expansion tank. Since the pipe under the radiator is out, the water will flow. This is done to clean the radiator.
3. Replace the pipe and fill the antifreeze water. Then run the vehicle and complete if water is missing.

You do not need to open the breather plug while doing these. Because that plug is on the way to the heating system. I think if you bought a 5 liter canister. The antifreeze rate generally varies between 35% and 50%.

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