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08.05.2020 18:10 # 1
olcay034
Hello; I have a 2004 model 307 hdi vehicle. I have been in it for about 2.5 years. Since I bought the car, there was oil leakage in the turbo, but I used it like this for more than 2 years since it did not cause any major problems since it threw the oil in and out. I had kkk brand zero turbo 3 months ago. I had no problems for 10-15 days. After 10-15 days, the vehicle suddenly cut off the gas and started to kick and smoke very intensely, and the traction, meanwhile, dropped by 80%. So he even fainted on the straight road. The next day I went to the master where I got the turbo installed. He opened the valve cover and said that a piece that operated the valve (I do not know exactly its name. What was the name was such a springy thing) was dislodged, so this situation occurred because one of the valves was not working and took the new piece out. Picture of the resulting track

After installing this part, the vehicle stopped kicking and throwing smoke, but a serious 50% drop in traction continued. We suspected the turbocharger, we removed the turbo and looked at the turbo, the turbo turned out solid. Then, the operations performed in turn are fireplaces;

Air flow meter changed
Injectors disassembled tested (solid output)
The gaskets of the place in the manifold were changed together with the valve cover.
Egr valve blinded
Volume adjustment done (no problem with sent)
The institutions where the Egr valve is connected were cleaned
Diesel, air filter replaced
Oil and oil filter were replaced.

Despite this, the traction problem still continues :( When we connect the vehicle to the computer, the egr valve, air flow meter and injector heater malfunctions, but we have already done all the things that can be done with them.

I do not want to take the vehicle to the authorized service in case they charge an expense that I cannot handle. Because addiction is bad these days :(

Do you have a friend who has happened to this situation before? I would really appreciate if you can help. The comments that he will make are extremely valuable to me. Respects

08.05.2020 18:10 # 2
olcay034
The picture of the part is not above, so I'm adding the picture again

08.05.2020 18:10 # 3
qqyyxx
I wish you had used the original turbo. These problems are experienced after the turbo replacement, both from the workmanship and the use of sub-industry products. If there is no problem with suction hoses and intercooler, it is most likely the source of the problem is turbocharger.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 4
olcay034
My teacher kkk brand turbo is said to be the original turbo of the 307s. We removed and tested the turbo twice. They say that there is not the slightest problem in the turbo. Of course, besides these maintenance, turbo hoses, oil pipe has also changed.


08.05.2020 18:10 # 5
hsnsnl
bag of garrett brand pejo .. not kkk
08.05.2020 18:10 # 6
olcay034
hsnsnl çok teşekkür ederim öğrenmiş oldum :)

Orjinal turbo değilse bile sonuç itibarı ile iki kere turboyu söküp teste götürdük ve turboda en ufak bir sıkıntının bile olmadığını öğrendik. Başka neden bu durum ortaya çıkabilir acaba ?

Bu arada aracı enson bilgisayara bağlattığımızda çıkan arıza kodları ve açıklaması şunlar ; Bi ara çevirisini yapmıştım bu açıklamanın ama bulamadım şimdi. O yüzden ingilizcesini veriyorum)

1 = kod : 001 Diesel hıgt Intermitt
Pressure ent
regulation
circuit Rail
pressure below
minimum pressure

2= kod : 002 Flow sensor permanent
signal.Short
circuit to
eart


3= kod : 003 Diesel high Intermitt
pressure ent
regulation
circuit
pressure below
reference value

4= kod: 004 Aircircuit permanent
Quantity of air
measured loven (lover olabilir fiş silinmiş tam okunmuyor )
than the
reference value
( EDC16C3 EURO3)
:Induction
circuit Air
flow higher
than
recommended

5 = kod: 005 Diesel
temperature
signal Short
circuit to
positive or
open circuit

6= kod: 006 Pre/post Permanent
heating relay
controlled and
spark plugs not
supplied
( EDC16C3 EURO3)
:Pre-heating
relaycircuit.
Spark plugs
permanently
supplled

7= kod: 007 Ctutch switch Intermitt
signal no ent
signal on
signal not
coherent

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08.05.2020 18:10 # 7
hsnsnl
The turbocharger is okay in tests that are okay, but when you put it on the vehicle, the belt does not activate, there is a pressure sensor. in my opinion
08.05.2020 18:10 # 8
olcay034
hsnsnl first of all thank you for your time and interest.

When we run the vehicle idle and load it on the gas, it opens the turbo and inflates the pipe. It fills the turbo in 2000 cycles and 3000 cycles without any problems. We have tried everything that can be tried about the turbo, everything else has been done so far. Whatever we go to the master says there is nothing in the turbo. They said they changed the air flow meter, they said the valve of egr, we blinded the egr They said that the manifold is taking air from there, we removed it, we changed everything, oring, they said that they may have escaped the sound. We measured the compressor, the compressor is very good. So if you look at it, there is no problem. But still, there is no traction, I become crazy. I can't even overtake a truck on the ramp so it's so bad :(
08.05.2020 18:10 # 9
technodex
Hello Hodja, the same thing happened to me

The fork entering the flowmeter is torn under the hose, if you want a check.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 10
Crzmt
[QUOTE = olcay034] hsnsnl first of all thank you for your time and interest.

When we run the vehicle idle and load it on the gas, it opens the turbo and inflates the pipe. It fills the turbo in 2000 cycles and 3000 cycles without any problems. We have tried everything that can be tried about the turbo, everything else has been done so far. Whatever we go to the master says there is nothing in the turbo. They said they changed the air flow meter, they said the valve of egr, we blinded the egr They said that the manifold is taking air from there, we removed it, we changed everything, oring, they said that they may have escaped the sound. We measured the compressor, the compressor is very good. So if you look at it, there is no problem. But still, there is no traction, I become crazy. I can't even overtake a truck on the ramp so it's so bad :(
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S my brother, I have the same cute in me, I will be crazy, I did not improve what I did.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 11
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = Crzmt] [QUOTE = olcay034] hsnsnl first of all thank you for your time and interest.

When we run the vehicle idle and load it on the gas, it opens the turbo and inflates the pipe. It fills the turbo in 2000 cycles and 3000 cycles without any problems. We have tried everything that can be tried about the turbo, everything else has been done so far. Whatever we go to the master says there is nothing in the turbo. They said they changed the air flow meter, they said the valve of egr, we blinded the egr They said that the manifold is taking air from there, we removed it, we changed everything, oring, they said that they may have escaped the sound. We measured the compressor, the compressor is very good. So if you look at it, there is no problem. But still, there is no traction, I become crazy. I can't even overtake a truck on the ramp so it's so bad :(
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S my brother, I have the same cute in me, I will be crazy I did not improve what I did I even thought about changing the engine How did you handle this problem [/ QUOTE]

So, has my teacher checked the solenoid valve?
08.05.2020 18:10 # 12
ggitaristt
It makes the most sense to go from the fault code ..

For example, if we look at the malfunction codes above, there is an electrical problem in the car. There was no need for a turbo replacement manifold or any part replacement.

My guess is that when disassembling something, they either short-circuited or started the car without fully inserting the sockets.

My car was also nonsense, it would fall out of traction and malfunction. I looked at the malfunction code.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 13
Crzmt
Electro valve and turbo changed again in the same line even the 110 turbo was installed, no friend will be crazy, we are currently struggling, we have been canceled.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 14
ggitaristt
How about the injectors? What about the diesel pump? How does the MAF and pressure sensor react to the situation?
08.05.2020 18:10 # 15
Crzmt
Egr changed, nothing changed, I was inserting the top cap, pushers or injector, we will look at the injector.
08.05.2020 18:10 # 16
Crzmt
As I said, all the malfunctions have been erased, there is no one left, but I did not fix it. let's see
08.05.2020 18:10 # 17
ggitaristt
How does it slide to the cent?
08.05.2020 18:10 # 18
Crzmt
No, today I worked with the vehicle until 1.30 at night. I changed the deficiency. We turned the brain into the current version. We took care of the synthesis.
I will buy and install a 90 turbo
And one of the hoses that came into the electro valve was exhausted, so he did not suction, we took care of it, at least we started to hear the sound of the turbo, but it is not enough, there is still an interestingness.
By the way, it did not fail, the device looks clean, it sucks outside
08.05.2020 18:10 # 19
ggitaristt
What is the turbo pressure value at full load and full throttle?
08.05.2020 18:10 # 20
Crzmt
[QUOTE = ggitaristt] What is the turbo pressure value at load, and at full idle?
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Idle 1011
1150-1200 at 3000 rpm
1500 to 5000 revolutions
tomorrow we will try again with a turbo of 90 and it blows a lot of black smoke, it bothers me on the road, it feels like they swear behind me, I must find a solution to this problem as soon as possible

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