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08.05.2020 20:33 # 1
ben_erhan
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I had opened this topic before, but the subject changed a little bit.

Today, my wife hit the car in front of the car because of this problem.

Sometimes my car will seem to stop at the first start, and it will recover itself. Sometimes it will be like to stop when I brake suddenly, and it will recover again.

This problem occurs either in the first operation or when it is close to braking and stopping the car. Sometimes this situation may result in stopping. I have come across automatic vehicle stopping in this vehicle. When it is fully stopped in the light, it does what it does during downshifting. ..when you use it with gasoline, no problem, I live with lpg I made the lpg setting, the result did not change.

I cleaned the throat butterfly, it did not improve.
The problem started to happen, I changed the ignition coil then it came after .. the coil said it would have nothing to do with the master, but I doubt it ... does it from the spark plug .. can't get air ... I did not resolve it ... it was difficult to solve.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 2
talip206
Sir, I think there is a problem with the idle engine. Unable to adjust, when it comes to a stop, it gives off too much gas, which pushes the car forward. So someone seems to be stepping on the gas. The idle motor is quickly contaminated because it is above the throat butterfly. When you remove it, you will see that it is covered with a layer like pitch. It is useful to clean and try with lining spray before replacing.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 3
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = talip206] Hodja, I think there is a problem with idling engine. Unable to adjust, when it comes to a stop, it gives off too much gas, which pushes the car forward. So someone seems to be stepping on the gas. The idle motor is quickly contaminated because it is above the throat butterfly. When you remove it, you will see that it is covered with a layer like pitch. It is useful to clean and try with lining spray before replacing. [/ QUOTE]

Where exactly is the idling engine?
08.05.2020 20:33 # 4
sonerkyl
erhan brother problem lpg originated I tell you lpg map sensor is defective I think you need to find a good lpg master. First of all, I did not understand why the master spark plugs do not change when the coil is changing. Many masters make automatic adjustments, play with some pressure etc. Find a master who will make your vehicle's lpg settings on the move and adjust the settings manually.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 5
talip206
[QUOTE = ben_erhan] [QUOTE = talip206] Sir, I think there is a problem with the idle engine. Unable to adjust, when it comes to a stop, it gives off too much gas, which pushes the car forward. So someone seems to be stepping on the gas. The idle motor is quickly contaminated because it is above the throat butterfly. When you remove it, you will see that it is covered with a layer like pitch. It is useful to clean and try with lining spray before replacing. [/ QUOTE]

Where exactly is the idle engine located? [/ QUOTE]
my vehicle is attached to the throat butterfly but it stays in the back. There is a socket at one end and the other end is entering the throat butterfly. It holds two screws. Easy to disassemble, but not all screwdrivers fit, as the screws are in the reverse position.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 6
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = sonerkyl] erhan brother problem lpg originated I tell you lpg map sensor is faulty I think you need to find a good lpg master. First of all, I did not understand why the master spark plugs do not change when the coil is changing. Many masters make automatic adjustments, play with some pressure etc. Find a master who will make your vehicle's lpg settings on the move and manually adjust the settings. [/ QUOTE]
Soner bro, is there a master you know you can do?
I am erhan 2017-09-12 23:37:41
08.05.2020 20:33 # 7
ben_erhan
Finally, I made 2 lpg settings .. air filter and spark plugs changed .. oil vapor hose was overhauled .. but the error did not improve .. I am waiting for the map sensor change as my soner said .. I ordered it from inside .. I write the result
08.05.2020 20:33 # 8
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = ben_erhan] Lastly, I made 2 lpg setting .. air filter and spark plugs changed .. oil vapor hose was overhauled .. but the error did not improve .. soner as I said, I am waiting for the map sensor replacement .. I ordered it from inside .. I write the result [/ QUOTE]

I think you bought the vehicle's own map sensor, lpg system also has a separate lpg map sensor. have him checked too.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 9
ben_erhan
Which was the first thing you said in your message .. so I got it :)
08.05.2020 20:33 # 10
sonerkyl
I wrote the lpg map map sensor teacher :)
08.05.2020 20:33 # 11
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = sonerkyl] lpg map map sensor I wrote my teacher:) [/ QUOTE]
Whether there is nothing to do :) I have 2 map sensors. ..

From time to time, the car started to stop when I stopped the brakes ..
08.05.2020 20:33 # 12
sonerkyl
erhan hocam do it, use a little bit of gasoline, are the same problems going on then what you will do
1-clean the throttle - you will adapt (no need to connect pc for 307s)
2-Then you will find a good LPG master and have a nice gas adjustment.
3-Change the brake sensor when your hand is touched, bro. :)

we cost you a little but
08.05.2020 20:33 # 13
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = sonerkyl] erhan hojam, do it like a little bit of petrol, do the same problems continue, then you will
1-clean the throttle - you will adapt (no need to connect pc for 307s)
2-Then you will find a good LPG master and have a nice gas adjustment.
3-Change the brake sensor when your hand is touched, bro. :)

we cost you a little but
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I did all but the brake sender ... I did not make an adaptation, just .. there was no problem.

the car is not igib in gasoline, it is like blind in lpg .. it does not react instantly to the gas, it is drowned at the first press and then it recovers ..
08.05.2020 20:33 # 14
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = sonerkyl] erhan hojam, do it like a little bit of gasoline, do the same problems persist then what you will do
1-clean the throttle - you will adapt (no need to connect pc for 307s)
2-Then you will find a good LPG master and have a nice gas adjustment.
3-Change the brake sensor when your hand is touched, bro. :)

we cost you a little but
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As you said Soner brother, I changed the brake sensor as well .. the problem continues again ...

What I observe thoroughly is that the things that will change the idle are effective.

If I could raise the idle a little, it would seem like it would be fixed, but the throat butterfly adjusts automatically, I think I don't think I can do anything like that ..

I will look at the lpg map sensor and the coil ... because it started after the coil changed. The master insistently says that it has nothing to do with the coil .. the side industry was a product .. I got it urgent .. I started this fault in 2-3days ..
08.05.2020 20:33 # 15
mehmetmarmara
I have a similar problem with me. When I first start the car in the morning (it doesn't always do it) or when I park it in bio, the cycle falls from the beginning. When the car will stop, the cycle suddenly rises, saving itself. After doing 3-4 defeats, he either stops or comes back. In the same way, I put it in reverse gear, then when I put 1e, the v-belt whips to the biker, then when the car is drowned, it seems as if I woke up with 3 instead of 1. Then I have no problems while on the move. I will have the belts checked next week. By the way, my car is gasoline. So the same problem with yours is not a problem related to lpgn.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 16
ben_erhan
[QUOTE = mehmetmarmara] I have a similar problem with me. When I first start the car in the morning (it doesn't always do it) or when I park it in bio, the cycle falls from the beginning. When the car will stop, the cycle suddenly rises, saving itself. After doing 3-4 defeats, he either stops or comes back. In the same way, I put it in reverse gear, then when I put 1e, the v-belt whips to the biker, then when the car is drowned, it seems as if I woke up with 3 instead of 1. Then I have no problems while on the move. I will have the belts checked next week. By the way, my car is gasoline. So the same problem with yours is not a problem related to lpgn. [/ QUOTE]

The problem is the same ... but I used the car for 1 week, the car was no problem..lpg also .. my problems are the same but I do not have the belt sound .. if I park the car when maneuvering in full steering or if I stop and fast back when driving forward or vice versa ... the car is doing a crawl, looking at the tachometer, it will almost stop, as in the first start, 1000 circuits rise and come back.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 17
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = ben_erhan] [QUOTE = sonerkyl] erhan, do it like this, use it in a little bit of gas, do the same problems continue, then you will
1-clean the throttle - you will adapt (no need to connect pc for 307s)
2-Then you will find a good LPG master and have a nice gas adjustment.
3-Change the brake sensor when your hand is touched, bro. :)

we cost you a little but
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As you said Soner brother, I changed the brake sensor as well .. the problem continues again ...

What I observe thoroughly is that the things that will change the idle are effective.

If I could raise the idle a little, it would seem like it would be fixed, but the throat butterfly adjusts automatically, I think I don't think I can do anything like that ..

I will look at the lpg map sensor and the coil ... because it started after the coil changed. The master insistently says that it has nothing to do with the bobbin.

I think the problem is in the lpg system bro, if there is no problem in gasoline, the throttle automatically adjusts the idling. I need to find a good lpg master, the same similar problem I had in my old vehicle focusta, when I wasted, it would stop when the engine turns on the steering wheel where it stops when the engine lights up. Then I found a master, the man knows his job, then neither the engine malfunction light nor stopped it.
08.05.2020 20:33 # 18
ben_erhan
Can anyone suggest a good lpg master?
Istanbul Ankara Sakarya. Izmit. ... Gebze Düzce
08.05.2020 20:33 # 19
sonerkyl
[QUOTE = ben_erhan] Can anyone suggest a good lpg master?
Istanbul Ankara Sakarya. Izmit. Gebze Düzce ... [/ QUOTE]

lpg what brand is your teacher? I know a few places in Ankara
08.05.2020 20:33 # 20
ben_erhan
Lovato attached
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