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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 1 |
 Celalll |
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My car Peugeot 307 1.6xt premium (4 forward, 1 reverse) AL4 automatic. My vehicle is currently at 98,000km. About 1.5 years ago, I had 2 solenoid valves and gearbox oil changes for maintenance purposes. The person who did it was not a Transmissionist but a normal Servant. As for my problem, I do not have the slightest problem in urban use. The problem starts when I go out of town for the holidays. After going 90-120 km without turning off the ignition after setting off, it normally drops to 3rd gear when going uphill or slowing down when driving in 4th gear. But when I start to accelerate again, it shifts to 4th gear late. Normally it needs to throw gears at 3000 revolutions, after going up to 4000-4500 revolutions and 100-120 km speed, it jumps to 4. When I change the gear to Manual, I cannot shift manually. Only D is written on the display, instead of the current gear number. If I slow down due to traffic light or congestion. Gear normally drops down to 1st gear individually. When I move or accelerate again Shifts to a higher gear at higher speeds than normal. The only problem when going from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 is the high revs, i.e. late gear shifting. Sometimes I have to go at 4 while I need to go at 3 or 3, because I cannot accelerate enough and I cannot increase the speed. As a result, the engine is shouting too much and fuel consumption is increasing. If I stopped, so if the gear fell to 1, the problem is bigger. Because he attempted to hit the gear 2 at 4000-4500 rpm and knocked as it was. This problem only occurs between the 90th and 120th km when you go out of the city. Since I make a maximum of 50-60 km in the city, it is a completely smooth ride. As a workaround, 10-15 minutes. Pulling over and waiting is sometimes improved when I run it again. It does not improve in Baze. When I have not improved, I shift the gear to R. Now it is getting better to know if it is. Then I set off on the thorn. Last summer was more than 1 in the 400km journey. This summer happened once. When I go to the service, when I connect the computer, I get a warning like "abs speed detection error". As far as I investigated, this problem was chronic in this vehicle. And there are those who can not solve the problem even with the gearbox revision. More precisely, I have not come across the problem solver yet. Why do you think this might be due to? By the way, I live in Istanbul. Thanks... |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 2 |
 artes34 |
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The problem is most likely because the solenoids have changed, the transmission software has not been updated, so the cycle intervals will improve when you update the transmission software. |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 3 |
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[QUOTE = artes34] The problem is most likely because the solenoids have changed, the transmission software has not been updated, so the cycle intervals will improve when you update the transmission software. [/ QUOTE] Thank goodness for my vehicle for now, but I want to update the software transmission software, the vehicle seems a bit cumbersome, and there is not much more on the start of the throttle until the half of the gas is started. Also, the transmission software is made only in peugot services, do we have a chance to have it outside, and I would be glad if they know how much friends write the price
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 4 |
| Celalll |
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The gearbox software has been updated. Otherwise, new types of solenoids do not work anyway. IN THE CITY The Transmission, which does not say 11 months of the year, causes trouble when it goes 100 km without stopping. This is the main thing ... |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 5 |
| Celalll |
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Teacher, I wrote 1 page to describe it to the finest detail. You are asking questions on a subject that doesn't even have a problem. And you prevent me from changing the flow of the subject and getting an answer to my problem. Even if you open up your own problem, there is an answer ... No? |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 6 |
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Friends, I have the 2006 307 1.6comfort model. As I go on the road in a normal way, my gear shifts become a little stiff, while the gearbox shifts are again hard when Kompressor does it. And I touch the pede with your tip, and this time, he makes it come and go, so that he can go hard. I replaced the gearbox oil with quality oil, is there any other suggestion of what to do or is there such a problem? Thank you.
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 7 |
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Hi First of all, good holidays, it is not easy to say that your problem is precisely caused by this or that part. Let me write my solutions for not going into 4th gear, you decide for yourself, Firstly, AL4 DPO in the transmission in my vehicle, the problems of this transmission in my vehicle were as follows. 1 - the problem of not being able to pass from 3 to 4, especially in hot weather (If I force it, the automatic protection mode in the continuation of the gearbox fault warning, the 3rd gear stay, the only D logo on the screen is fixed, wait until the contact is on and off and continue on the road again from the beginning :)) 2 - hard and sensible transitions in transition from 1 to 2 in cold weather 3 - lower traction problem than it should be As a result of these problems, the solutions I made in order, I went to the authorized service, due to a malfunction in one of the abs sensors, it is heard that this malfunction must be remedied, then the transmission will be checked and a repair cost will be up to 3500 liras depending on the situation, and it is decided not to stop by a special service, then it will pay 80 lira for the failure detection fee. 1 week after the gearbox selonoid and oil change, the gearbox is more serious again. After 1 week, the gearbox is completely unresponsive. Since the financial situation is not available, it is not possible to go further, 1 month of the person who gets sold at the expense of the vehicle that is adopted with everything in terms of design, comfort and handling. then the transmission remains in the hands again, it is the same. I think the following path should be followed 1 - If the gearbox has not been intervened to this day, you should definitely not touch it until it goes ... If the intervention has been made and the authorized service has made reasonable reasonable suggestions, the total cost of these suggestions does not exceed 3 to 5 thousand, if the budget is suitable, the suggestion of the authorized service should be taken into consideration without hesitation. sample abs sensors are replaced (even the speeds of the tires affect the operation of the transmission) the electronic parts in the vehicle are reviewed and the one-year warranty given by the authorized service is asked to have the gearbox repaired, and the event is solved 2- The gearbox is delivered to a special service that you trust and gives a guarantee, complete revision is requested, a warranty of 1 year or 10 thousand km is taken, but the possibility of eating the head again always occupies the head as the electronic or other problems affecting the operation of the gearbox are not eliminated. 3 - this is the most expensive and definitive solution. You can handle this event without burning too much |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 8 |
| slhyldz |
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[QUOTE = Celalll] Hello friends My car Peugeot 307 1.6xt premium (4 forward, 1 reverse) AL4 automatic. My vehicle is currently at 98,000km. About 1.5 years ago, I had 2 solenoid valves and gearbox oil changes for maintenance purposes. The person who did it was not a Transmissionist but a normal Servant. As for my problem, I do not have the slightest problem in urban use. The problem starts when I go out of town for the holidays. After going 90-120 km without turning off the ignition after setting off, it normally drops to 3rd gear when going uphill or slowing down when driving in 4th gear. But when I start to accelerate again, it shifts to 4th gear late. Normally it needs to throw gears at 3000 revolutions, after going up to 4000-4500 revolutions and 100-120 km speed, it jumps to 4. When I change the gear to Manual, I cannot shift manually. Only D is written on the display, instead of the current gear number. If I slow down due to traffic light or congestion. Gear normally drops down to 1st gear individually. When I move or accelerate again Shifts to a higher gear at higher speeds than normal. The only problem when going from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 is the high revs, i.e. late gear shifting. Sometimes I have to go at 4 while I need to go at 3 or 3, because I cannot accelerate enough and I cannot increase the speed. As a result, the engine is shouting too much and fuel consumption is increasing. If I stopped, so if the gear fell to 1, the problem is bigger. Because he attempted to hit the gear 2 at 4000-4500 rpm and knocked as it was. This problem only occurs between the 90th and 120th km when you go out of the city. Since I make a maximum of 50-60 km in the city, it is a completely smooth ride. As a workaround, 10-15 minutes. Pulling over and waiting is sometimes improved when I run it again. It does not improve in Baze. When I have not improved, I shift the gear to R. Now it is getting better to know if it is. Then I set off on the thorn. Last summer was more than 1 in the 400km journey. This summer happened once. When I go to the service, when I connect the computer, I get a warning like "abs speed detection error". As far as I investigated, this problem was chronic in this vehicle. And there are those who can not solve the problem even with the gearbox revision. More precisely, I have not come across the problem solver yet. Why do you think this might be due to? By the way, I live in Istanbul. Thanks ... [/ QUOTE] Hello; You did not give detailed information about your vehicle. Your car is my new safe, my old safe. (the solenoids are different from each other and the software should be discarded as the friend says. The tool works with the old software) How was the oil change done by who? so even the gas pedal of this vehicle needs to be introduced calibration etc. In other words, is the transmission maintenance of your vehicle primarily done according to the process? Do you have a tube in your vehicle? If you have a tube, your vehicle is a certain km. Does the problem persist after using tubeless for a few days? Is there any error code when you connect your vehicle to pp planet? My suggestion to you is that there are three automatic gearboxes on the Bostancı industrial site. They know this gearbox very well and they are masters in their work. Take it to them, show them, explain your situation. Let me point it out. The PEugeot vehicle is really very comfortable and good, but it does not spoil the originality, it gives water immediately. It also costs a lot in the hands of masters who do not understand. I don't know if it exists, but first and foremost, find a special or authorized service that looks just like peugeot. Do not handle the gearbox even if you find it. Just go to a professional gearbox who understands the gearbox. If I'm not mistaken, there was a place in the maslak industry?
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 9 |
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Transmission maintenance example I made; Two 100 HZ solenoid changes; The brain was disassembled and cleaned; Other solenoids were measured and sounded intact. If it is broken, 50 TL. 4 liters if the oil is not wrong. (Normally it takes 3 liters because the brain is removed) Since my vehicle is a make-up case, the software was not discarded, but I had the throat butterfly calibration included in the throttle. Because I got it cleaned. The transmission of my vehicle works like a clock. Finally, sometimes there was a problem with me because of the tube. I feel knocked out of shifting from 4 to 1 in two passes. I used the vehicle in gasoline for two or three days. The transmission of the vehicle worked like a clock, and even the fuel decreased. Finally, have your Transmission contactor checked. This is a part that deteriorates a lot in transmissions. It reflects on the screen in which position the gear is. It may happen that it shows "D" while you are manual.
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 10 |
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[QUOTE = slhyldz] Transmission maintenance example I made; Two 100 HZ solenoid changes; The brain was disassembled and cleaned; Other solenoids were measured and sounded intact. If it is broken, 50 TL. 4 liters if the oil is not wrong. (Normally it takes 3 liters because the brain is removed) Since my vehicle is a make-up case, the software was not discarded, but I had the throat butterfly calibration included in the throttle. Because I got it cleaned. The transmission of my vehicle works like a clock. Finally, sometimes there was a problem with me because of the tube. I feel knocked out of shifting from 4 to 1 in two passes. I used the vehicle in gasoline for two or three days. The transmission of the vehicle worked like a clock, and even the fuel decreased. Finally, have your Transmission contactor checked. This is a part that deteriorates a lot in transmissions. It reflects on the screen in which position the gear is. It may happen that it shows "D" while you are manual. [/ QUOTE] hello where did you get it
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 11 |
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Hello friends. I had every problem mentioned on the subject. I bought my car at 180000Km and got lpg. However, after going 3000 km, these problems arose in me. Problems: i) Automatic gearbox error when the vehicle is cold in the morning, burning of safe mode (- *) signs. ii) Shift at high speeds (as it happens) while driving on the highway at high speeds. iii) Knock: I spotted the city in hot use. First of all, we have a brother who we love very much in Maslak. I went to him and explained the situation. He said, let's start by changing the solenoid valve and oil. We did as he said. However, the same problems arose after 1000 km. I also revised my car. We made this decision together with the master. The gearbox is lowered, there are bushings that provide transmission, these are worn. So this piece has been repaired. Since my budget was limited, we turned a lathe into this. I chose this way because the new one will cost more. Every piece from A to Z was reviewed and replaced with a new one if necessary. Total cost was 3000 TL. So if you say what happened now, the vehicle is at 199000 km. It's fine. Traction vs throw stones to new vehicles. But it is necessary to comply with some conditions: i) Not acting hastily in gear changes, waiting 3-4 seconds between R and D. ii) Taking the transmission to N and applying the parking brake, transferring the load of the wheels to the parking brake, then taking it to P. In addition, I think of the following. 1) It's still knocking in very hot weather, these are normal friends. Oil is thinning, necessary pressure cannot be met, something is happening. But I'm absolutely sure of that. 2) There is motor protection hair at the bottom below. If this is plugged, the temperature is definitely increasing, which is the reason for the knock. But I didn't take it off, I don't want to take it off either. I think the temperature is rising because of this. 3) Let's say you used it for 4 days when the air conditioner was on, you went at 31 °. You came home, you parked. It rained the next day, did the temperature drop to 21 °? Start the car in the morning, you can get automatic gearbox error after 700m. I lived. They also have their quirks. So there is a thermodynamic error in the car, and the brain catches it. LPG system also has an effect on this. 4) Never change gear while the wheels are turning, for example you have come to the street of your home, you will deviate. Don't buy N or something. This is also effective. 5) Let's say the air is very very very hot, humidity and heat. Then if you turn off the LPG for five minutes, the car will relax. I think this is due to the high temperature of the burning of LPG. When you use gasoline, you allow the gearbox to cool. For example, the temperature drops by 5 °. The fan stops, for example. 6) This is special to my car: I can never install my original oil filter. My filter is a little longer than usual, and I think this allows cooling to some extent. In other words, when your oil enters the filtration, this provides a positive benefit as the distance it travels increases. I wanted to share it because I thought it would be useful. Yours sincerely, I wish you an accident-free ride.
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 12 |
| Celalll |
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My teacher, who are these masters? Which is the best? Is there any Peugeot service that you can also recommend in Bostancı? Meanwhile, the vehicle is 2005 model. When it is connected to the computer, the error it gives is something like "the abs speed could not read correctly". |
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 13 |
| msertkol |
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Mahir Usta in Maslak industry. Part 24.
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 14 |
| slhyldz |
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[QUOTE = msertkol] Hello friends. I had every issue mentioned in the subject. I bought my car at 180000Km and got lpg. However, after going 3000 km, these problems arose in me. Problems: i) Automatic gearbox error when the vehicle is cold in the morning, burning in safe mode (- *) signs. It happened during the transfers. , I explained the situation. He said, let's start by changing the solenoid valve and oil. We did as he said. However, after 1000 km, the same problems arose. I also revised my car. We made this decision together with the master. The gearbox has come down, there are bushes that provide transmission, these are worn out. So this piece has been repaired. Since my budget was limited, we turned a lathe into this. I chose this way because the new one will cost more. Every piece from A to Z was reviewed and replaced with a new one if necessary. Total & nbsp; the cost is 3000 TL. So what is it? It's fine. Traction vs throw stones to new vehicles. But it is necessary to comply with some conditions: i) Not acting hastily in gear changes, waiting 3-4 seconds between R and D. ii) Taking the transmission to N and applying the parking brake. after transferring the load of the wheels to the parking brake. In addition to this, I think. it's still knocking, these are normal friends. Oil is thinning, necessary pressure cannot be met, something is happening. But I am absolutely sure of it. 2) There is motor protection hair below. If this is plugged, the temperature is definitely increasing, which is the reason for the knock. But I didn't take it off, I don't want to take it off either. I think the temperature is rising because of this. You came home, you parked. It rained the next day, did the temperature drop to 21 °? Start the car in the morning, you can get automatic gearbox error after 700m. I lived. They also have their quirks. So there is a thermodynamic error in the car, and the brain catches it. The LPG system also has an impact on this. Don't buy N or something. This is also effective. & Nbsp; 5) Let's say that the air is very very very hot and there is everything overheating. Then if you turn off the LPG for five minutes, the car will relax. I think this is due to the high temperature of the burning of LPG. When you use gasoline, you allow the gearbox to cool. For example, the temperature drops by 5 °. For example, the fan stops. 6) This is special to my car: I can never install my original oil filter. My filter is a little longer than usual, and I think this allows cooling to some extent. In other words, since the distance it travels increases when your oil enters the filtration, this also provides a positive benefit. I wish you a ride. [/ QUOTE] Normal maintenance Ümraniye industrial site kalender otoda (PEugeot master) This master recommended the sponsor ŞAhinoto on his site.
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| 08.05.2020 18:44 | # 15 |
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Sorry it was a wrong quote or something systematic. I wrote a reply to 206cc57. Normal maintenance at Ümraniye industrial site, Kalender Oto (PEugeot master) Şahinoto, the sponsor of this master, recommended this master. (I peugeotmarket.co)
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