206 Automatic Transmission - NET PROBLEM - - 206

Good evening to all peugeot users. Friends, many topics have been opened so far. But none of these issues have taken the form of a serious page to solve the problem. All with local estimates etc. I have stayed.

What is the problem of the Automatic Transmission that turns on the S and Snow mode lights in these 206s, How much does it cost? Is this the same problem with the 307's chronic transmission problem? I go that way until my car exceeds a certain degree in the 70s. Then I stop and run it again, no more happening during the day. Where am I in this incident?

LET US TAKE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PROBLEM AND HAVE CREATED A GUIDE TO THE FRIENDS THAT WILL HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

When was the last transmission oil changed?
Is your vehicle connected to the computer? Was there any error code?

I don't know when I bought the vehicle, when the oil changed. Not connected to computer 2000 Mod 1.4 XR. I do not know if it is connected :) Do you think that just doing it when the engine is cold shows that I am at the beginning of this problem and will recover with oil change?

Unfortunately, I think it's like a chronic solenoid malfunction, but first look at what is on the computer and then ask the problem again.

Aslında bir çok soru neticelendi ama sizin gözünüzden kaçan konular olmuş anlaşılan.Tekrardan yazalım belki ufak da olsa kafanızdaki sorulara bir nebze olsun ışık tutar.

S ve * mod ışıkları kontağı açtığınızda belli bir müddet yanıp sönüyorsa bunun 2 adet açıklaması vardır.

1- Otomatik şanzımanınız üzerinde elektriksel yada elektroniksel bir arızayı şanzıman beyni hafızasına almış

2- Yağ sayacı 36 bin küsür km (tam hatırlamıyorum net rakamı) yi geçtiğinden dolayı yanar.

Çözümler;

1a- Araç Planet 2000 e bağlanır ve tam arıza taraması yaptırılır.Tarama bittikten sonra şanzımana girilir (muhtemelen siz basınç arızası alacaksınız) oradaki arıza kodlarına göre değerlendirme yapılır.

2a- yağ sayacı kaynaklı bir arıza ışıkları yanıyor ise, Planet 2000 programı ile araç şanzıman beynine girilir ve burada aracın yağını değiştirileceğini aracın beynine söylemeniz gerekir. Bu işlemden sonra aracın şanzımanın yağı değiştirilir ve aynı sayfadan aracın şanzıman km si sıfırlanır.Hepsi bu kadardır.

Burada sorunların çözüme ulaşmamasının nedeni soru soran arkadaşların sorusunu sorduktan sonra yapılacak işlemin maddi anlamda yüksek bir meblağ tutacağından çekindikleri için o arıza ile araçlarını kullanmaya devam etmeleri ve ustasına göstermemeleri.

Otomatik şanzımanlarda elektronik arızalar net tespit edilebilirken mekanik olan arızalar açılmadan bilinemez.Bu şanzımanlar,manuel şanzımanlara göre daha komplike bir yapıya sahip olduğundan içinde bir pul (rondela) nın dahi hasar görmesi çalışma yapısına doğrudan etki ederek çalışma prensibini bozar.

Hiç kimse o aracın direksiyonuna geçmeden de arkadaşım,senin şanzımanında şu arıza var diyemez (forum için konuşuyorum) Onun için de bir çok konu havada kalmıştır.Bunun sebebi de tamamen soruyu soran bir çok arkadaşın maddi olaylardan elletmeye korkması ve o arızayı kabullenmesidir.

Gelelim sizin yaşadığınız soruna;

Karşılaştığınız durum aracınızın otomatik şanzımanında elektriksel yada elektroniksel bir arıza oluşmuş ve beyin bunu hafızasına almış resenlenmeyi bekliyor. Bu tip arızalarda bakılması gereken yer elektronik aksamı yani Beyin,hidrolik ünite ve bileşen parçaları. Aracınız 2006 model altı ise basınç selenoid valfleri eski tiptir ve bu valflerin çalışma sıcaklıkları farklı olduğundan zamanla kullanıma bağlı olan yıpranma ile meydana gelen yağın balata tozlarından ve gözle görülmesi zor olan ama yağ içerisinde biriken metal parçacıkları bu yağın özelliğini yitirmesine sebep oluyor. Bu yağ hidrolik üniteye bağlı olan toplamda 8 adet olan valflerin en önemlisi olan ana basınç valflerinin bozulmasına yol açıyor.

Bu yağ, özelliğini kaybetme noktasına geldiğinden ana basınç valflerinin isteklerine cevap veremediğinden dolayı bu valfleri bozuluyor. AR-GE çalışmalarında görülmüş ki şanzımanın normal hizmet süresi 200 ila 250 bin km iken sırf bu valflerden dolayı arıza olayı fazlalaştığından çözümü bu valfleri iyileştirme çalışmasına gitmişler ki şanzıman ömrü olan 200 km yi sorunsuz ve şikayetsiz görebilsin.

Borg Warner firması bu konu hakkında bir çalışma yapıp (hidrolik pistonlar ve otomatik şanzıman parçaları hakkında dünya çapında çok büyük bir firmadır) bu şanzımanlar için yeni valfleri üretip Peugeot firmasına alın bunu kullanın şikayetleriniz bitecektir demiş. Peugeot da yetkili servislerine bu yeni stok kodu ile tanımlı parçayı taktırmaya başlamış.Fakat sadece bunu alıp eskisiyle değiştirmek maalesef ki çözüm olmuyorFirma, bunun değişmesi ile beraber şanzıman beynine yüklenmesi gereken küçük bir yama (yazılım) yapmış.Bu yazılım da çalışma sıcaklığını dengeleyen bir yazılımdır ki ciddi bir önem arz eder. (sağlıklı çalışabilmesi ve uyum sağlayabilmesi açısından)

Bkz; Planet 2000 programındaki Borg Warner uyumu sayfası.

Eski tip ve yeni tip valfleri birbirinden ayırmak çok kolaydır; eski valf kahverengi konektörlüdür,yeni olan ise siyah renk konektörlü ve eskisine göre biraz şişmandır. Bu yukarıda yazdıklarımın ışığında aracınızı tavsiyem önce bir Planet 2000 programı olan özel servise götürüp arızanın basınç valflerinden olduğunu teyid etmek ve 20 TL ödeyip,hayırlı işler dileyip çıkmak. Sonrasında bir yetkili servise gidip allah kahretsin diyip, 3 e 5 e bakmadan bu valfleri orada değiştirtip güncellemesini yaptırtmak (güncelleme yapılmadan değişse bile ki "bunu sadece yetkili servis yapabiliyor" sorununuz güzelir ama arıza ışıkları her kontağı açtığınızda yine yanmaya devam eder) hemde parça ve işçiliğin 2 yıl garantisi alınarak keyfi sürülür.

Not: Metin bunu okursa cevaplasın kendisi parçayı dışarıda değiştirdi sorunu düzeldi ama arıza ışıkları sönemedi.

Şuan emin olun aracınız cansız ve isteksiz hareket ediyor,yokuşlarda yığılıyor ve sürekli gaz basmanızı bekliyor,ani süratlenmelerde anveleye kalkıyor ve kendini zor toparlıyor,yokuş çıkmak sizin için bir işkence,vites geçişlerinde vuruntular var bilhassa 1-2 vitesleri arasında kısacası motorun tüm gücünü bu iki küçük parça yüzünden şanzımanınız sömürüyor.

Cevabı biraz mizahi yazdım zira, aynı şeyleri defalarca ciddi yazdım ama konu hep havada kaldı.Umarım bir PC ye bağlatır ve sorununuzun tam çözümüne ulaşmak için gereken adımları atarsınız.

Sevgilerimle.

it is told so beautifully

Sec. put the monur point.
Connect your vehicle to the computer and go to the solution in the light of the information provided.

Thank you very much. health to your arm in your hand. I have received an answer exactly the way I want you on your occasion. As of this morning, first of all, my sponsor is going to auto EFE. If they are able to look at computers, I have them look at them and continue my way.

NOTE: Also, my S - * lights start to come on at the first knock before warming, not when I turn on the ignition < / div>

[QUOTE = sukur]

NOTE: Also, my S - * lights start to come on at the first knock before warming, not when I turn on the ignition < / div> [/ QUOTE]

First of all, Koliva and Tolga, thank you.

I mentioned in my above message or! & nbsp; "Smile"

& nbsp; this oil is caused by changing the state when the oil is cold due to its loss. Now that your vehicle's oil is cold, it is close to the custard consistency, the valves cannot press this oil to the hydraulic unit, and the oil that cannot pass through the valves perceives this as a malfunction.

When the oil gets hot examines and has no problems passing through & nbsp; "Wink"

& nbsp; Already that little program patch on new type valves is cold or overheating It consists of a trick to prevent the gearbox from malfunctioning.

You will also see that the engine and gearbox are cooled before the valves are changed, and then the gearbox is changed during the oil change. temperature should be done at 60 degrees and above.

< / div>

An important note; Do not use the vehicle between 500 and 1000 km after LPG valves change. Let it be easy now. & nbsp;

my friend did not solve the same problem, oil change, etc. I went --- tied to the computer --- looked at the pressure values grip cycle time, let's change the solenoids solved the problem is solved. sports mode did not burn again, the biggest plus is that the fuel consumption of my vehicle has fallen down automatically .. god help you

HCBANK brother. Where did you solve that awesome problem, how much it cost me? Give me the name and address of the place you went. 2003 hdi bva 406 has exactly the same problem you mentioned. I went to various masters and gearboxes, futile. Be sure to even dispose of the vehicle, or be sure to send me a private message from your pocket.

I wrote because hcbank that mobile number is open to you 05422048340

Friends just went and got my car connected to the computer. ---- Pressure setting difference / Recommendation ---- & nbsp; gave an error. What the master said to me by looking at this error is this; The oil and valves will change for a total of 550 TL ... If it is not resolved, we go to the transmission revision from the valves to 2750 TL by using the valves: S

Let me get your comments

Is this a trial board, how is this master? stingy on. I do it myself, like a slab, a pity for them. Despite this, the money given to the empty parts will be reduced.

[QUOTE = sukur] Friends just went and got my car connected to the computer. ---- Pressure setting difference / Recommendation ---- & nbsp; gave an error. What the master said to me by looking at this error is this; Oil and valves will change for a total of 550 TL ... If it is not resolved, we go to the transmission revision from the valves to 2750 TL by using the valves: S

Let me get your comments

[/ QUOTE]

Bingo detected the torque drop due to the pressure difference. The turbine started to blink slowly. Valves will change. You can get the original Borg Warner brand from Şahin Peugeot 120 TL / piece. First, what price will they offer for service, software and vision? then just get a price for the update. If it fits outside, update it in the service. wherever you look, you will have a profit between 50-70 TL but the person who changes it must know the job.

Dear Monur and other Friends

3 liters of oil (MOBILE LT71141): 69 TL

2 Orj S. Valve & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 240 TL
Special service exchange & amp; labor & nbsp; : 100 TL
TOTAL & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 409 TL I will get İbrahim master on `YE DATA PEUGEOT MASLAK`.
He also said that there are devices and software and he will make the update ..

I wrote the prices in detail for those who have the same problem. Approximate profit according to the market 150 TL

İnş. my problem is fixed. Also, I was wondering if these vehicles used ESSO before. If this tool has never been changed and I put MOBILE on it, will it be a problem?

Secondly When the vehicle warms up, shouting as if it was idle and then getting up as someone hit it from behind is also due to the problem I will make?

[QUOTE = sukur] Dear Monur and other Friends

3 liters of oil (MOBILE LT71141): 69 TL

2 Orj S. Valve & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; ; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 240 TL
Special service exchange & amp; labor & nbsp; : 100 TL
TOTAL & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 409 TL I will get İbrahim master on `YE DATA PEUGEOT MASLAK`.
He also said that there are devices and software and he will make the update ..

I wrote the prices in detail for those who have the same problem. Approximate profit according to the market 150 TL

İnş. my problem is fixed. Also, I was wondering if these vehicles used ESSO before. If this tool has never been changed and I put MOBILE on it, will it be a problem?

Second, When the vehicle warms up, shouting as if it was idle and then getting up as someone hit it from the back is also due to the problem I will make?

[/ QUOTE]

yes from that caused. & nbsp; it was the same for me. Neither the same or the same as what you described. result revision made. & nbsp;

Wait, scare person :) I will save my car with valves. :) With the support I received from Monur, I will happily make my car tomorrow and make it 409 TL as if it never came out of me. Prayer, even if there is no other expense in Ramadan, the rest of our money will be the share of a poor man's thank you ... I thank everyone for their support. We pay the same attention to every advertisement as if it were our own vehicle. A nice togetherness

[QUOTE = sukur] Stop teacher scare person :) I will save my car with valves. :) With the support I received from Monur, I will happily make my car tomorrow and make it 409 TL as if it never came out of me. Prayer, even if there is no other expense in Ramadan, the rest of our money will be the share of a poor man's thank you ... I thank everyone for their support. We pay the same attention to every advertisement as if it were our own vehicle. Nice togetherness [/ QUOTE]

There is a section in the long article I wrote first, teacher, don't miss it. Here we talked about the reason for electronic malfunctions. You do not have a malfunction that the PC cannot see mechanically. Otherwise, you may have to deal with it. What is the km of your vehicle?

KM of my vehicle 134.000

08.05.2020 16:58	# 4
toga406
Unfortunately, I think it's like a chronic solenoid malfunction, but first look at what is on the computer and then ask the problem again.

08.05.2020 16:58	# 6
toga406
it is told so beautifully

08.05.2020 16:58	# 7
koliva
Sec. put the monur point. Connect your vehicle to the computer and go to the solution in the light of the information provided.

08.05.2020 16:58	# 9
monur
[QUOTE = sukur] Thank you very much. health to your arm in your hand. I have received an answer exactly the way I want you on your occasion. As of this morning, first of all, my sponsor is going to auto EFE. If they are able to look at computers, I have them look at them and continue my way. NOTE: Also, my S - * lights start to come on at the first knock before warming, not when I turn on the ignition < / div> [/ QUOTE] First of all, Koliva and Tolga, thank you. I mentioned in my above message or! & nbsp; & nbsp; this oil is caused by changing the state when the oil is cold due to its loss. Now that your vehicle's oil is cold, it is close to the custard consistency, the valves cannot press this oil to the hydraulic unit, and the oil that cannot pass through the valves perceives this as a malfunction. When the oil gets hot examines and has no problems passing through & nbsp; & nbsp; Already that little program patch on new type valves is cold or overheating It consists of a trick to prevent the gearbox from malfunctioning. You will also see that the engine and gearbox are cooled before the valves are changed, and then the gearbox is changed during the oil change. temperature should be done at 60 degrees and above. < / div> An important note; Do not use the vehicle between 500 and 1000 km after LPG valves change. Let it be easy now. & nbsp;

08.05.2020 16:58	# 11
toga406
HCBANK brother. Where did you solve that awesome problem, how much it cost me? Give me the name and address of the place you went. 2003 hdi bva 406 has exactly the same problem you mentioned. I went to various masters and gearboxes, futile. Be sure to even dispose of the vehicle, or be sure to send me a private message from your pocket.

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08.05.2020 16:58	# 1
sukur
Good evening to all peugeot users. Friends, many topics have been opened so far. But none of these issues have taken the form of a serious page to solve the problem. All with local estimates etc. I have stayed. What is the problem of the Automatic Transmission that turns on the S and Snow mode lights in these 206s, How much does it cost? Is this the same problem with the 307's chronic transmission problem? I go that way until my car exceeds a certain degree in the 70s. Then I stop and run it again, no more happening during the day. Where am I in this incident? LET US TAKE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PROBLEM AND HAVE CREATED A GUIDE TO THE FRIENDS THAT WILL HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

08.05.2020 16:58	# 10
hcbank
my friend did not solve the same problem, oil change, etc. I went --- tied to the computer --- looked at the pressure values grip cycle time, let's change the solenoids solved the problem is solved. sports mode did not burn again, the biggest plus is that the fuel consumption of my vehicle has fallen down automatically .. god help you

08.05.2020 16:58	# 12
toga406
I wrote because hcbank that mobile number is open to you 05422048340

08.05.2020 16:58	# 13
sukur
Friends just went and got my car connected to the computer. ---- Pressure setting difference / Recommendation ---- & nbsp; gave an error. What the master said to me by looking at this error is this; The oil and valves will change for a total of 550 TL ... If it is not resolved, we go to the transmission revision from the valves to 2750 TL by using the valves: S Let me get your comments

08.05.2020 16:58	# 14
toga406
Is this a trial board, how is this master? stingy on. I do it myself, like a slab, a pity for them. Despite this, the money given to the empty parts will be reduced.

08.05.2020 16:58	# 15
monur
[QUOTE = sukur] Friends just went and got my car connected to the computer. ---- Pressure setting difference / Recommendation ---- & nbsp; gave an error. What the master said to me by looking at this error is this; Oil and valves will change for a total of 550 TL ... If it is not resolved, we go to the transmission revision from the valves to 2750 TL by using the valves: S Let me get your comments [/ QUOTE] Bingo detected the torque drop due to the pressure difference. The turbine started to blink slowly. Valves will change. You can get the original Borg Warner brand from Şahin Peugeot 120 TL / piece. First, what price will they offer for service, software and vision? then just get a price for the update. If it fits outside, update it in the service. wherever you look, you will have a profit between 50-70 TL but the person who changes it must know the job.

08.05.2020 16:58	# 16
sukur
Dear Monur and other Friends 3 liters of oil (MOBILE LT71141): 69 TL 2 Orj S. Valve & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 240 TL Special service exchange & amp; labor & nbsp; : 100 TL TOTAL & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 409 TL I will get İbrahim master on `YE DATA PEUGEOT MASLAK`. He also said that there are devices and software and he will make the update .. I wrote the prices in detail for those who have the same problem. Approximate profit according to the market 150 TL İnş. my problem is fixed. Also, I was wondering if these vehicles used ESSO before. If this tool has never been changed and I put MOBILE on it, will it be a problem? Secondly When the vehicle warms up, shouting as if it was idle and then getting up as someone hit it from behind is also due to the problem I will make?

08.05.2020 16:58	# 17
arachnid
[QUOTE = sukur] Dear Monur and other Friends 3 liters of oil (MOBILE LT71141): 69 TL 2 Orj S. Valve & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; ; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 240 TL Special service exchange & amp; labor & nbsp; : 100 TL TOTAL & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; : 409 TL I will get İbrahim master on `YE DATA PEUGEOT MASLAK`. He also said that there are devices and software and he will make the update .. I wrote the prices in detail for those who have the same problem. Approximate profit according to the market 150 TL İnş. my problem is fixed. Also, I was wondering if these vehicles used ESSO before. If this tool has never been changed and I put MOBILE on it, will it be a problem? Second, When the vehicle warms up, shouting as if it was idle and then getting up as someone hit it from the back is also due to the problem I will make? [/ QUOTE] yes from that caused. & nbsp; it was the same for me. Neither the same or the same as what you described. result revision made. & nbsp;

08.05.2020 16:58	# 18
sukur
Wait, scare person :) I will save my car with valves. :) With the support I received from Monur, I will happily make my car tomorrow and make it 409 TL as if it never came out of me. Prayer, even if there is no other expense in Ramadan, the rest of our money will be the share of a poor man's thank you ... I thank everyone for their support. We pay the same attention to every advertisement as if it were our own vehicle. A nice togetherness

08.05.2020 16:58	# 19
monur
[QUOTE = sukur] Stop teacher scare person :) I will save my car with valves. :) With the support I received from Monur, I will happily make my car tomorrow and make it 409 TL as if it never came out of me. Prayer, even if there is no other expense in Ramadan, the rest of our money will be the share of a poor man's thank you ... I thank everyone for their support. We pay the same attention to every advertisement as if it were our own vehicle. Nice togetherness [/ QUOTE] There is a section in the long article I wrote first, teacher, don't miss it. Here we talked about the reason for electronic malfunctions. You do not have a malfunction that the PC cannot see mechanically. Otherwise, you may have to deal with it. What is the km of your vehicle?